"Gonzalez and Rungvisai are the same size...."

[Mexican_Puppet]

You aren't known for objectivity. You can nitpick any resume and you do when you don't like a fighter or his nationality but you don't when you do like his nationality facts.

Cuadras beating Chocolatito is actually not a fact. Maybe your lack of command of the English language is affecting that. It was a close fight that according to the majority was scored correctly. You are in the minority and it's based on their countries.

Another "fact" that's also a lie is the $2m demand. He asked for $1m.

All that I said is the truth.

You can't say that Rungvisai lost the first fight and González won the fight vs Cuadras. It's incongruent.

Cuadras was the champ and the fight was super competitive.

Then Román refused two times the rematch with Cuadras.

First was one millions, then was 2.

It was a clear duck.

[chrisJS]

All that I said is the truth.

You can't say that Rungvisai lost the first fight and González won the fight vs Cuadras. It's incongruent.

Cuadras was the champ and the fight was super competitive.

Then Román refused two times the rematch with Cuadras.

First was one millions, then was 2.

It was a clear duck.

You can't say Cuadras won and Rungvisai won (fight I) by the same logic then. Yet you do say that.

Nowhere did I make such a claim either by the way so not sure why that was pinpointed.

He asked for $1m each time. He wouldn't ask for $1m get rejected and then say "Ok, $2m". He had every right to ask for that number ($1m). These fighters are underpaid.

You also claimed Cuadras won clearly and are now saying "super competitive". Already you are bending. There's a lot of holes and contradictions in your claims.

[Mexican_Puppet]

You can't say Cuadras won and Rungvisai won (fight I) by the same logic then. Yet you do say that.

Nowhere did I make such a claim either by the way so not sure why that was pinpointed.

He asked for $1m each time. He wouldn't ask for $1m get rejected and then say "Ok, $2m". He had every right to ask for that number ($1m). These fighters are underpaid.

You also claimed Cuadras won clearly and are now saying "super competitive". Already you are bending. There's a lot of holes and contradictions in your claims.

All that I said were facts .

Estrada fight was in 108 pounds.

Viloria was shot.

Gonzalez refused two times the rematch vs Cuadras thinking that Rungvisai was a easier rival.


Read about the two millions:

http://izquierdazo.com/uno-o-dos-millones-de-dlares-pide-el-chocolatito-gonzlez-para-pelear-con-el-gallo-estrada

That was a clear duck because after that, he fought with menor rivals for less money.

Too the excuse of the weight of Rungvisai was false.

Both have the same height and reach and the difference in the fight was like 4 pounds.

[chrisJS]

All that I said were facts .

Estrada fight was in 108 pounds.

Viloria was shot.

Gonzalez refused two times the rematch vs Cuadras thinking that Rungvisai was a easier rival.


Read about the two millions:

http://izquierdazo.com/uno-o-dos-mil...-gallo-estrada

That was a clear duck because after that, he fought with menor rivals for less money.

Too the excuse of the weight of Rungvisai was false.

Both have the same height and reach and the difference in the fight was like 4 pounds.

Wrong. You said Cuadras won which is unquestionably fiction not fact. Then you proceeded to say someone can't say disagree with BOTH verdicts (SSR-Choco & Choco-Cuadras) despite you disagreeing with both verdicts which is massive hypocrisy on your part.

Also, I'm not sure why you are throwing the Estrada fight at me. First of all, I didn't say Estrada didn't come down and secondly, Estrada is my favorite fighter from these weight classes.

When did Chocolatito TWICE refuse a re-match? He went from Cuadras to Rungvisai and then re-matched Rungvisai for the belt he lost. Where is the second refusal?

You also say he fought minor rivals after Cuadras but Rungvisai is actually the top dog now in the division and also one can argue only lost his title due to some home cooking against Cuadras. He's only fought Rungvisai since that bout and Rungvisai now owns a win over Estrada so I'm not sure how "minor" a rival he is. Cuadras has lost three of his last four. SSR is clearly the superior fighter.

Celestino Caballero had a bigger height and reach than Dwight Muhammad Qawi. Doesn't mean he was equal size or bigger.

[The Big Dunn]

The size argument in boxing just needs to go away. If a fighter can make the weight, that's his weight class. The whole "he outweighed him by x amount of pounds" is silly. For example, we know Jarrett Hurd is going to rehydrate a lot. He's a huge 154 pounder. The guy he's fighting knows this too. If he can't handle that, then don't sign for the fight.

This right here. It is sad to see so many alleged boxing fans cry about "weight bullying". That is some really dumb shit.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd was in 152 pounds vs Maidana.

****ing Maidana was in 164 pounds.

And Floyd schooled him...

Plus the difference of Sor and Román was only like 4 pounds.

Both have the same height and reach.

Sor is just better than Gonzalez head to head. It happens. Same as Vernon Forrest was better than Shane.

Gonzalez is still a great fighter, he just met his match. I don't see why so many can't just accept it.

[The Big Dunn]

Fighters that fans don't like are always weight bullies until they move up too far then they got "exposed" by someone "their own size".

Watching Saturday's card had me thinking just how badass Chocolatito is. He fought them all. Viloria, Cuadras, Arroyo, Estrada, Rungvisai twice and other badass fighters too like Niida and Yaegashi. He did all that while performing at a high level and just as importantly delivering extremely exciting fights. I am glad that I got to enjoy his prime and gave credit because I watched these weight classes instead of a bunch of the casuals who just assume because they are smaller they can't fight. I also realize he was hated by a certain somebodies fan base because he was riding a win streak in the 40's and was on a few GGG cards. Pathetic.

which fanbase hated Gonzalez because he was on a win streak and on GGG's cards?

Some people didn't feel he should be ranked #1 p4p. Turns out they made a valid point because after he got the spot he had a close win over Cuadras, a close loss to Sor and a KO loss to Sor.

You just went in on dude because he wouldn't allow for a different opinion, then you chalk a different opinion up to race in a passive aggressive way.

[Geralt69]

Estrada weighed around 2 pounds less...2..getting tired of all of this whining over size. You got dudes in other divisions outweighing their opponents significantly and suddenly because Estrada fought a ****** fight early on Rungvisai is this giant that dwarf and is a weight bully. FOH.

Mexico Is being destroyed in boxing currently....

They just taking out there anger on Srisaket because he is doing so damn well. Jealousy is a terrible thing....

Think about it...

Miguel Vazquez got destroyed by novice eurobum Taylor.
Canelo ran against GGG and robbed him.
Guevara lost.
Cuadras took a savage beating against a kid from Puerto Rico.
Then Srisaket beats up Estrada!!!!!

They mad as hell right now.

Imagine if despite the steroids and weight cheating Nery ends up losing!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

I mean holy **** that would be bad.....

[FrankieClutch]

This right here. It is sad to see so many alleged boxing fans cry about "weight bullying". That is some really dumb shit.

It's comical. It's not like we all don't know the guys who are big for their division. Other boxers know it as well. it's not blindsiding anyone- either deal with it or don't fight those guys

[The Big Dunn]

It's comical. It's not like we all don't know the guys who are big for their division. Other boxers know it as well. it's not blindsiding anyone- either deal with it or don't fight those guys

If posters feel the day before weigh in should be changed ok say so. I can see why they want that.

I agree 100%, if a guy makes 135 Friday at 5:00PM during weigh in then he is a LW. period.