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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #51
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    So if it's game set match, you should be VERY eager to accept my offer. You've got me cornered right? You're definitely correct right? So let me pay you. Let's do it. What's the problem?
    You said the bet was to compensate you revealing you real life identity. You original account doesn't reveal that. Why won't you post it?

    Game, set, match. EXPOSED. Clown.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      You said the bet was to compensate you revealing you real life identity. You original account doesn't reveal that. Why won't you post it?
      #1 - Because it's been posted at least a dozen times.

      #2 - Because I'm not going to play along with you changing the subject.

      I am not your monkey and I am under no obligation to dance for you.

      You claim I'm a liar. I asked you if you want to bet on whether I'm a liar. Clearly you don't want to bet. Clearly you don't really believe I'm a liar. You're just a teenager playing tough guy on the internet.

      Which is fine. Have fun. But don't think you're fooling anybody.
      Last edited by N/A; 02-25-2018, 06:10 AM.

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      • Kezzer
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        #53
        Ffs how many more posts from that WBA wbo - three musketeers - do we have to put up with. Hard to even bother reading - response to any opinion is either

        "Your lying" or "I've worked for all of the belts" or "I get paid to talk this BS or I wouldn't be here"

        Well last boring. 95% of people know that if you negiotiate you start with an amount higher than you expect, but also one that is realistic. If I'm at work and make an offer than is clearly unachievable or unrealistic to the other party they won't even bother to negiotiate. It is quite obvious wilder is Currently in his situation with his 50/50 offers. He may have valid reasons, wanting to build his name up further etc, or he may simply not be willing to take the challenge on. But however you look at it while it's 50/50 or nothing; most people will continue looking at his resume for backing up his numbers - and as it stands that isn't exactly a great backup!

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          #54
          Originally posted by Kezzer
          95% of people know that if you negiotiate you start with an amount higher than you expect, but also one that is realistic.
          How do you know that? What is your level of experience in negotiating? Are you just assuming that, or is that what you've learned during your involvement in lucrative negotiations?

          Was it realistic when Hearn offered Parker 80/20 for a unification between two undefeated fighters? Even though a mandatory challenger is entitled to 25% or 30% depending on the organization?

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            #55
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            How do you know that? What is your level of experience in negotiating?
            My experience in negiotiaion here is frankly irrelevant. I could explain to you sort of role I have but it's really not important to the conversation. It's actually fairly common sense, and as I said 95% of people would follow that rule book for those reasons I mentioned in my previous post.

            And no Before you start saying "your lying" - no I don't want to bet $50k on your fantasy multi million dollar scheme you apparently negiotiate. Based on your comments on this forum I doubt you would know how to sell a burger outside wembley stadium to be quite honest.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Kezzer
              My experience in negiotiaion here is frankly irrelevant.
              No, it's very relevant, because you're claiming to know how multimillion dollar negotiations work, even though you clearly would have no way of knowing that.


              95% of people would follow that rule book for those reasons I mentioned in my previous post.
              Those 95% of people have never been involved in multimillion dollar negotiations, let alone in professional fighting, and would honestly have no ****ing idea what they're talking about. Yourself included.

              Which is why you ducked the following questions:

              Was it realistic when Hearn offered Parker 80/20 for a unification between two undefeated fighters? Even though a mandatory challenger is entitled to 25% or 30% depending on the organization?

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              • Kezzer
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                #57
                Yes, I "ducked" the question. Firstly the mandatory would give him 20% with some organisations. I don't know of Hearn actually offering that deal - I've seen no facts which suggest that. Only facts I know other than words being thrown around is that parker started at wanting 40% and negiotiated to end up where we did with around 1/3 split.

                Parker , much alike wilder, would earn his biggest pay day by being paid just a mandatory, so to be quite honest Hearn could offer what he likes in some respects. I'm sure some other challengers have received lower percentages - but I obviously don't know agreed splits for majority of the fights so it's only assumption.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Kezzer
                  Ffs how many more posts from that WBA wbo - three musketeers - do we have to put up with. Hard to even bother reading - response to any opinion is either

                  "Your lying" or "I've worked for all of the belts" or "I get paid to talk this BS or I wouldn't be here"

                  Well last boring. 95% of people know that if you negiotiate you start with an amount higher than you expect, but also one that is realistic. If I'm at work and make an offer than is clearly unachievable or unrealistic to the other party they won't even bother to negiotiate. It is quite obvious wilder is Currently in his situation with his 50/50 offers. He may have valid reasons, wanting to build his name up further etc, or he may simply not be willing to take the challenge on. But however you look at it while it's 50/50 or nothing; most people will continue looking at his resume for backing up his numbers - and as it stands that isn't exactly a great backup!
                  dont worry, his whole 'i work in boxing' schtick isnt fooling anyone.

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                  • juggernaut666
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Kezzer
                    Yes, I "ducked" the question. Firstly the mandatory would give him 20% with some organisations. I don't know of Hearn actually offering that deal - I've seen no facts which suggest that. Only facts I know other than words being thrown around is that parker started at wanting 40% and negiotiated to end up where we did with around 1/3 split.

                    Parker , much alike wilder, would earn his biggest pay day by being paid just a mandatory, so to be quite honest Hearn could offer what he likes in some respects. I'm sure some other challengers have received lower percentages - but I obviously don't know agreed splits for majority of the fights so it's only assumption.
                    Bowe wanted 90% of the pie to fight Lewis .

                    Then 75% ......


                    That is a DUCK in reverse when getting too much and that was LENNOX LEWIS he was under cutting not JOE PARKER . lol !

                    Offering Parker 20/25 % would and should be the offer but Joshua is pushing Hearn to make the fights , otherwise you have ANOTHER 90's era where the top guys dont fight or wait 9 years later ,fans should be bowing down to AJ who is the only HW that generates significant $$ .

                    ANYONE in the boxing world would understand this .
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-25-2018, 03:41 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Kezzer
                      Ffs how many more posts from that WBA wbo - three musketeers - do we have to put up with. Hard to even bother reading - response to any opinion is either

                      "Your lying" or "I've worked for all of the belts" or "I get paid to talk this BS or I wouldn't be here"

                      Well last boring. 95% of people know that if you negiotiate you start with an amount higher than you expect, but also one that is realistic. If I'm at work and make an offer than is clearly unachievable or unrealistic to the other party they won't even bother to negiotiate. It is quite obvious wilder is Currently in his situation with his 50/50 offers. He may have valid reasons, wanting to build his name up further etc, or he may simply not be willing to take the challenge on. But however you look at it while it's 50/50 or nothing; most people will continue looking at his resume for backing up his numbers - and as it stands that isn't exactly a great backup!
                      So he can't call your lies? What a word we live, and what a ego you have

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