1986 Tyson vs Wilder .. Let's be real

[Just looking]

No boxer is in their prime when their 20...people only say that because he didn't lose to Buster Douglas. This is boxing not gymnastics.

Call it what you want, his prime, his peak, etc. The thing is, his best was around that time, after that his negligence started to kick in and he turned in a slower head-hunter version of himself, and this version would get KOed by Wilder

[j0zef]

I have no idea what point you're trying to make here. In 1986, Tyson was a 20 year old who was boxing professionally for 2 years. You're comparing Apples and Cell phones.

As for the head to head, Wilder's jab is too inconsistent to dominate Tyson like Lewis did, and Wilder's defense is average at best. Those long arms aren't gonna help Wilder at all.

If my life was on the line, I would go with Mike Tyson KO in 2nd round and not look back.

[CubanGuyNYC]

if stiverne was able to land on wilder which he did in the 1st fight then tyson will and much sooner

Back in those days, the first solid shot Tyson landed usually ended the fight. Most men were defeated before they even entered the ring. Wilder would be no different. All his physical advantages would amount to nothing when the moment of truth arrived.

[Illmatic94]

shout out to Sotgoda for this post:
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Tyson's 1st set of opponents are listed below:

1. Hector Mercedes: final record of 1 win 10 losses (0-3 record before Tyson)

2. Trent Singleton 1 - 4 final record (1-3 record before Tyson)

Tyson outweighed his 1st 2 opponents by about 15 pounds, FYI...

3. Don Halpin 10 - 23 final record (10 - 18 record before Tyson)

4. Ricardo Spain 2 - 23 final record (1 - 0 record before Tyson); outweighed by 30+ pounds by Tyson.

5. John Alderson 6 -1 final record (3 - 0 before Tyson); he outweighed Tyson.

6. Larry Sims 3 - 19 final record (3 - 16 before Tyson)..

I could go on but it is not necessary. Check out boxrec and see the details yourself.

Ultimately, these are the people he fought. If Wilder fights these same guys - you call him a bum beater. But Tyson's opponents were worse. He outweighed over half of them too (I counted 20 or so out of his 1st 32 opponents) and their combined records until about mid 1985 or so.

Now, no one on Tyson's record has the height and reach of Wilder; neither the foot speed and agility. Don't write back ****** stuff before performing your analysis. The closest to Wilder's physical dimensions were:

Tony Tucker (6'5" and 82 inches) - went to UD;
Mitch Green (6'5" and 82 inches) - also went to UD;

These are the facts. They are not made up or opinions. Numbers don't lie. Based on these facts, my inference is that he will struggle with taller, rangier fighters.

Also, for this world beater 'Tyson' compare his records and the people he fought too against those that Wilder fought. Was Tyson also a bum-beater?

Most heavyweights of those days will be cruiserweights at best in this era. So, enough with the crap talk about Tyson demolishing Wilder. I expect some ****** responses as well from non-objective folks. Provide data to back up your assertion - not BS.

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well written and facts only. no level of fanboyism can dispute these truths.

[cupcrazy01]

Wladmir would jab Tyson's head off and discourage him and he'd give up.

Post-prison Tyson, maybe. Pre-prison? Nope, he'd get inside, land one good hook and goodbye, Wlad. Corrie Sanders did it for crying out loud.

[cupcrazy01]

Razor Ruddock would have knocked Spinks out. Spinks was a light heavyweight dude.

A light heavy who beat Larry Holmes twice.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Post-prison Tyson, maybe. Pre-prison? Nope, he'd get inside, land one good hook and goodbye, Wlad. Corrie Sanders did it for crying out loud.

Your description pretty much sums it up. As I said before, back in those days, the first solid shot Tyson landed tended to end the fight. Wlad didn’t have the chin nor the heart to stand up to the wrecking machine that was prime Tyson. Once he got inside, and he would, it would be over.

[amuroray]

A light heavy who beat Larry Holmes twice.

Holmes was past his best and got robbed.

The 2nd fight was a disgrace. Holmes won so by a very wide margin.

Mike tyson is so overrated is beggers belief.

[BUMBOJOHNNY]

Why don't you show Wilder's last 20 fights. let me know who on his resume isn't a bum!!!

[Ray*]

It’s difficult to pinpoint which version of Wilder for Tyson to fight doe. Probably this version of Wilder (After 9 years and 40 fights) would stand a better chance at the 1986 version of Tyson. But the 1986 version of Tyson came with a reputation which puts fear into his opponents before they even step in the ring.