Why is Luis Ortiz the underdog vs Wilder?

**_Rexy_** · 02-21-2018, 09:41 PM

Because he’s the challenger

**D4thincarnation** · 02-21-2018, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by O Prophet

Ortiz KO'ed Jennings who went the distance with Klitschko.

Recently Ortiz destroyed David Allen in 7, the same Allen who went the distance with Dillian Whyte in a good fight.

Ortiz also looks to be in the best shape of his life for this Wilder fight.

Why is he the underdog?

Because it looks like he is 50.

**daggum** · 02-21-2018, 09:43 PM

because he died 2 years ago. this is just a fat guy

**Kezzer** · 02-21-2018, 09:45 PM

He hasn't beat anyone of any note, his previous few fights he has looked shockingly poor. I don't see how he could be anything other as a challenger to be honest, I'm expecting wilder to get him out of there with three rounds

**Illmatic94** · 02-21-2018, 09:45 PM

This will most likely be the first time Ortiz enters a ring without PED's. that's why.

**otrocubiche** · 02-21-2018, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by Illmatic94

This will most likely be the first time Ortiz enters a ring without PED's. that's why.

this here, he's going to be tasting new waters....and sinking

**Kezzer** · 02-21-2018, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Illmatic94

This will most likely be the first time Ortiz enters a ring without PED's. that's why.

I saw a David haye in an interview yesterday. He said something along the lines of (I'm using speech marks to give context but it won't be exact words) -

"Ortiz wilder may have been a decent fight six years ago but he's far too slow now, he's failed a drug test - what - twice? And against who? A journeyman you have never heard of, or someone who has never fought anyone in their life! So if he's failing tests against them - what does that tell you? He's clearly got no chance. Wilder should get him out of there within 3 rounds"

**FinitoxDinamita** · 02-21-2018, 10:00 PM

Because he looks about 48 and is the B side.

**Luilun** · 02-22-2018, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by O Prophet

Ortiz KO'ed Jennings in 7, the same guy who went the distance with Wlad.

Recently Ortiz destroyed David Allen in 7, the same Allen who went the distance with Dillian Whyte in a good fight.

Ortiz also looks to be in the best shape of his life for this Wilder fight.

Why is he the underdog?

Because he's 65 collecting Social Security

Why is Luis Ortiz the underdog vs Wilder?