Seeing that Wilder is a huge favorite against Ortiz does this mean

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Deontay Wilder:

"It'll be 50/50 or we don't see a fight"

Wilder needs to get himself an "advisor" who knows what day it is.

Why did you ignore all of my points and refuse to answer all of my questions?

[eco1]

it means the world should end soon.

[Just looking]

Why did you ignore all of my points and refuse to answer all of my questions?

Because he lost and is ashamed of himself.
Off topic: Do you know how the showtime app work? I'm about to download it for march 3rd but I want to know exactly what I'm doing

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Because he lost and is ashamed of himself.
Off topic: Do you know how the showtime app work? I'm about to download it for march 3rd but I want to know exactly what I'm doing

I subscribe to Showtime through my cable company. So I use my cable company login information to access Showtime Anytime at no additional cost.

I'm out of town for work most weekends, so I'm almost never home to watch fights. Which makes watching HBO boxing extremely frustrating. But for Showtime fights, I just bring a Roku with me wherever I'm going, and watch the fights live on Showtime Anytime on Roku if there's a TV where I'm at, or if I'm at a show, I watch on a tablet.

You login to Showtime Anytime and you'll see an option for LIVE TV and then you choose either East coast or West coast.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I would have to say that there are many examples of the opposite happening. David Haye was the bigger puncher, but Wlad beat him. George was the bigger puncher but Ali beat him. Mike Tyson was the bigger puncher, but Holyfield beat him.

I'd say the difference is that at heavyweight, most guys can hit, at least some. They're so damn big that they'd clock any normal dude any time. So when they land a big shot, it's much bigger. A fine example for your argument is Tyson vs. Botha where Both clearly had a lead on the cards and then BOOM. Such a short punch and lights out.

[Just looking]

I subscribe to Showtime through my cable company. So I use my cable company login information to access Showtime Anytime at no additional cost.

I'm out of town for work most weekends, so I'm almost never home to watch fights. Which makes watching HBO boxing extremely frustrating. But for Showtime fights, I just bring a Roku with me wherever I'm going, and watch the fights live on Showtime Anytime on Roku if there's a TV where I'm at, or if I'm at a show, I watch on a tablet.

You login to Showtime Anytime and you'll see an option for LIVE TV and then you choose either East coast or West coast.

Thanks bro. I am from Brasil and can't find any showtime channels anywhere, so I'm in loss. I'll download the app and see what happens

[Sheldon312]

I would have to say that there are many examples of the opposite happening. David Haye was the bigger puncher, but Wlad beat him. George was the bigger puncher but Ali beat him. Mike Tyson was the bigger puncher, but Holyfield beat him.

I'd say the difference is that at heavyweight, most guys can hit, at least some. They're so damn big that they'd clock any normal dude any time. So when they land a big shot, it's much bigger. A fine example for your argument is Tyson vs. Botha where Both clearly had a lead on the cards and then BOOM. Such a short punch and lights out.

That's what makes the HW so special.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

That's what makes the HW so special.

It livens it up, no doubt. The puncher's chance is always there...

[BLASTER1]

What do you base that on? I can't fathom a logical reason to believe that, so I'm curious what information influenced your opinion.




A few reasons. #1 - Wilder is a much bigger star than Parker. It's not even close. On twitter & instagram, Wilder has nearly 900,000 followers. Parker has around 200,000.

#2 - Wilder is from a very large country with a very large population. Parker is from a very tiny country. Wilder has had multiple fights with millions of viewers on free network television. He's one of the most well known current boxers in America. He delivers some of the best ratings on Showtime and his title win was Showtime's highest rated fight of the last 5 years, and one of their highest rated fights of all time.

#3 - Wilder is from the most lucrative country when it comes to boxing. More money can be generated in the US for a big fight than any other place on the planet. You can price tickets much higher. You can price PPV much higher. It's an entirely different set of economics when you're talking a big US star vs. a big New Zealand star. It's not even close.

#4 - The world perceives AJ & Wilder as the top two fighters on the planet. That is the true dream fight in the division that will capture the world's imagination. AJ vs. Fury would be so big in the UK that you could maybe argue that would be as lucrative, but Parker just isn't on that level in terms of name value, what he brings to the table in terms of foreign television, etc.

#5 - Wilder holds the most prestigious championship in the sport. Parker holds the least prestigious recognized championship in the division. In a lot of countries, when you're selling the foreign rights, the WBO has nowhere near the honor and prestige of the WBC.

#6 - Parker's recent fights have been of a very low level against low level competition. Tape delay. Not shown at all. Youtube. You name it. Parker is not the established commodity that Wilder is.

Don't get me wrong, AJ is a MUCH MUCH bigger star than Wilder. It's not even close. But just as there is a clear divide between AJ and Wilder, there is also a clear divide between Wilder and Parker.




Where do you live? I wouldn't dare tell you what people in the UK were talking about. Hearn controls the narrative there and when he wants people to talk about Wilder, they will. But here in the states, Wilder's knockout of Stiverne went viral, as did his call out of AJ. There was major steam over here for AJ vs. Wilder coming out of that second Stiverne fight. It only died down because it quickly became clear that Hearn didn't want the fight yet (nor should he).




How do you know what he shouldn't have said? What are your qualifications? What is your experience? What's the largest deal you've ever negotiated? Wilder literally has the two most successful managers in the entire history of boxing advising him. Is it possible they know more about negotiating than you do? They've negotiated the biggest fights in the history of planet Earth. Is it possible they know more about negotiating than you do?

Parker's side said OVER AND OVER AND OVER "we won't take a penny less than 40%." Of course they didn't mean it. It's a negotiation. They settled for a third, or maybe even less.

Wilder is going to say 50/50. Hearn is going to say 70/30. And they'll meet somewhere in the middle. If AJ stays with Showtime.

If Hearn can get a dozen dates a year out of HBO, then this fight is toast. And that would break my heart. Because they're both great fighters. They're clearly the best. It would be for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world. The first of the four belt era. They're both charismatic personalities. Undefeated vs. undefeated. UK vs. US. It has the makings of an all time great trilogy. It would be tragic if HBO ****blocks this rivalry.

Great reply.

[No punch power]

So you're saying Ortiz went pro at 43?

And was 35 in in amateur tournaments where he clearly looks to be in his mid 20s?

Your position really doesn't make any sense.

Wilder was favored over Povetkin btw. Even though the fight was in Russia.

The idiots & trolls **** on Wilder all day long, but the world's leading experts consider him to be a very very dangerous man. Which is why Hearn is so reluctant.

There's nothing impressive about beating a 6 foot 1, overweight blown up light heavyweight like Alexander Povetkin that has pillows in his hands who happens to be a feather fist and can barely crack an egg. Especially when someone like Deontay Wilder happens to be a REAL, LEGITIMATE and a CREDIBLE heavyweight at 6 foot 7 with a 83 inch reach. Wilder squashes Povetkin like a little bug and it still wouldn't mean much. So mentioning his name and pretending Wilder beating Povetkin would've made Wilder something impressive is totally false.

Now Luis Ortiz is a LEGITIMATE and a REAL challenge!

Beating the likes of Wladimir Klitschko, Joseph Parker, Luis Ortiz, Jarrell Miller, Dominic Brezeale, Johan Duhapas and etc who are all above 6 foot 3 inches in height is more impressive and more LEGITIMATE and CREDIBLE as victories!

There will never be a top successful heavyweight shorter than 6 foot 4, EVER AGAIN! Especially one with a reach that is 75 inches or shorter. It simply won't HAPPEN! Thus, beating a 'heavyweight' of such a dimension is meaningless and irrelevant.