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  • Curt Henning
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    #11
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    Vegas for obvious reasons. London makes more sense than New York but Vegas most of all as it usually always does. Better tax breaks, ********, higher influx of tourism, smaller site fee. The arena (assuming T-Mobile) would be able to sit 18,000 and I'd say 15,000 minimum will be from the U.K.

    Joshua is the champ, he'll have three belts and is clearly the more respected boxer with a following. Joshua could just be firm and say Wembley or nothing. Wilder is crazy if he lets the fight not happen over purse demands (not budging on 50/50). Sometimes you gotta go to the champs backyard to get what you want. They ain't paying peanuts in the U.K. Joshua made something crazy like $40m his last two fights and is making around $20m next month. His opponents making around $10m. Wilder is yet to beat $1.2m.

    I do think it will happen over here but from a promotional standpoint they probably feel the need to expose Joshua to the US market and pilot to see how many Brits travel out. Not a fan of marination myself and I think Wilder is crap and could lose anytime so I'd rather they just do it now.
    canelo/chavez did better gate than both of AJs last two fights....thats why it will be vegas...the US ppv money will bring more...

    the fight will do ok in america if they build it a bit more...it will be hyped up here and people will buy into it having a hope of bringing back the HW division

    joshua tries to put a stop to it happening in vegas then you will know hes ducking

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    • Randall Cunning
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      #12
      It aint only the boxing why it happens there either. All lists say hes the most marketable sportsman on the planet, and he aint gunna do that by just fighting in the UK. He wants the massive endorsements he has to expand his reach.

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        #13
        Wilder won't fight for an appropriate split - so until that changes the fight won't happen next in the U.K or otherwise. Miller is just one of several options Joshua has should he best Parker; haye, povetkin , whyte , Miller are all quite possible alternatives.

        The bigger factor is probably that match room contract with Joshua is finishing this year (think it's two more fights including Parker) - I think there is a commitment to fight in America to Joshua. If Hearn wants to keep Joshua then they have to agre what is important to him and I don't think money is actually hay high up - that's more a factor for hearn
        Last edited by Kezzer; 02-20-2018, 05:01 PM.

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          Originally posted by Randall Cunning
          It aint only the boxing why it happens there either. All lists say hes the most marketable sportsman on the planet, and he aint gunna do that by just fighting in the UK. He wants the massive endorsements he has to expand his reach.
          exactly

          its dont have to do with whos more respected or who has the better name on their resume or all of that other stuff chris is talking.......its financial

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            #15
            Originally posted by Kezzer
            Wilder won't fight for an appropriate split - so until that changes the fight won't happen next in the U.K or otherwise. Miller is just one of several options Joshua has should he best Parker; hate, potvetkin , whyte , Miller are all quite possible alternatives.
            more nonsense

            hearn has yet to make an actual offer ....hearn has never made a formal offer or even tried.......you dont know what wilder would or wouldnt take until you get serious and actually sit down and put some financials on the table

            hearn has yet to do that

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            • chrisJS
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              #16
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              canelo/chavez did better gate than both of AJs last two fights....thats why it will be vegas...the US ppv money will bring more...

              the fight will do ok in america if they build it a bit more...it will be hyped up here and people will buy into it having a hope of bringing back the HW division

              joshua tries to put a stop to it happening in vegas then you will know hes ducking
              Likewise if Wilder sticks to 50/50.

              It will be Vegas that's about 90% or more certain. Too many folks claim ducking before anything has even happened.

              Wilder is yet to make an offer considering he's the alleged money man with the promoter than can give more.

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                #17
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                Likewise if Wilder sticks to 50/50.

                It will be Vegas that's about 90% or more certain. Too many folks claim ducking before anything has even happened.

                Wilder is yet to make an offer considering he's the alleged money man with the promoter than can give more.
                chris...ur are talking nonsense right now

                no one is claiming a duck....but if joshua and hearn refuse to negotiate a fight in vegas you will know they are ducking

                wilder isnt making the offer....aj will take the higher percentage and will be the ones approaching wilders side to get a deal done.....its up to hearn to make the offer

                and we wont know if wilder is going to "stick to 50 percent" until hearn actually gets down to it and tries to make a deal

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                  #18
                  People keep mentioning vegas but as it stands that isn't an option. No one in vegas has offered to stump the money up to make it happen there (yet). In my opinion eventually it will happen there, quite probably in 2019 - as part of a two match fight with wembley being the other.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    chris...ur are talking nonsense right now

                    no one is claiming a duck....but if joshua and hearn refuse to negotiate a fight in vegas you will know they are ducking

                    wilder isnt making the offer....aj will take the higher percentage and will be the ones approaching wilders side to get a deal done.....its up to hearn to make the offer

                    and we wont know if wilder is going to "stick to 50 percent" until hearn actually gets down to it and tries to make a deal
                    Why is it on Hearn to do it? If Wilder isn't happy with the terms maybe his team can get a higher guarantee and then present it?

                    Hopefully it happens and I'm sure if both keep winning it will probably early next year but I have my concerns over Wilder.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by chrisJS
                      Vegas for obvious reasons. London makes more sense than New York but Vegas most of all as it usually always does. Better tax breaks, ********, higher influx of tourism, smaller site fee. The arena (assuming T-Mobile) would be able to sit 18,000 and I'd say 15,000 minimum will be from the U.K.

                      Joshua is the champ, he'll have three belts and is clearly the more respected boxer with a following. Joshua could just be firm and say Wembley or nothing. Wilder is crazy if he lets the fight not happen over purse demands (not budging on 50/50). Sometimes you gotta go to the champs backyard to get what you want. They ain't paying peanuts in the U.K. Joshua made something crazy like $40m his last two fights and is making around $20m next month. His opponents making around $10m. Wilder is yet to beat $1.2m.

                      I do think it will happen over here but from a promotional standpoint they probably feel the need to expose Joshua to the US market and pilot to see how many Brits travel out. Not a fan of marination myself and I think Wilder is crap and could lose anytime so I'd rather they just do it now.
                      I'm wondering dosen't Jarell Miller have a contract with HBO.And Joshua's fight against Parker is the last one that can be matched by Showtime in Bidding wars.So is Joshua v Miller going to be on HBO as part of 'Matchroom Boxing USA'.How will Wilder v Joshua happen then ?

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