Comments Thread For: Danny Garcia: I Want Thurman, It's On Him, Whenever He's Ready

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Danny and Thurman both made 2 million for their unification fight.

You don't know that. $2 million was filed with the commission. In boxing, top fighters often manipulate their purses to save on taxes and sanctioning fees. Unless you believe Miguel Cotto was really only paid 750k for his retirement fight?

Spence and Danny both just made 1.2 million respectively to fight Peterson and Rios.

You don't know that. $1.2 million was filed with the commission. In boxing, top fighters often manipulate their purses to save on taxes and sanctioning fees. Unless you believe Miguel Cotto was really only paid 750k for his retirement fight?

You'd have to be a moron to think they'll make anything less than 2 million to fight each other.

You'd have to be a moron to think Spence/Garcia right now is as big a fight as Thurman/Garcia was last year. Spence needs more time to be built up. Garcia needs more time to recover from his loss. Regardless of whatever Thurman & Garcia were actually paid last year, that was a massive fight that had lots of build up. Between two undefeated fighters. Thurman/Spence is the fight that next year will be as big or bigger than Thurman/Garcia was.

Just as you'd have to be a moron to think fighting Spence and winning the IBF would hurt Danny's chances at getting another unification with Thurman.

You're assuming Danny wins that fight, which he probably wouldn't. He may end up fighting Spence. We'll have to see. But you can't blame Garcia for preferring the bigger fight.

[Nomadic]

I don't mind a rematch, but there are to many matches at 147 to be made.

[Ray*]

So are these guys going to put an hold on their careers to rather wait for when Thurman ready?

[BoxingTech718]

Going to have to fight Spence to earn it.
Porter got dibs then Spence.

[FLY TY]

You don't know that. $2 million was filed with the commission. In boxing, top fighters often manipulate their purses to save on taxes and sanctioning fees. Unless you believe Miguel Cotto was really only paid 750k for his retirement fight?




You don't know that. $1.2 million was filed with the commission. In boxing, top fighters often manipulate their purses to save on taxes and sanctioning fees. Unless you believe Miguel Cotto was really only paid 750k for his retirement fight?




You'd have to be a moron to think Spence/Garcia right now is as big a fight as Thurman/Garcia was last year. Spence needs more time to be built up. Garcia needs more time to recover from his loss. Regardless of whatever Thurman & Garcia were actually paid last year, that was a massive fight that had lots of build up. Between two undefeated fighters. Thurman/Spence is the fight that next year will be as big or bigger than Thurman/Garcia was.




You're assuming Danny wins that fight, which he probably wouldn't. He may end up fighting Spence. We'll have to see. But you can't blame Garcia for preferring the bigger fight.

Ok, and you don't know what they were paid either, so according to what's out there, not some imaginary figures, Garcia made exactly 800K less to fight Rios, than what he made for his "super" fight with Thurman last year.

Coincidentally, it's been reported that Spence just made that exact same figure. NONE of these fighters are commanding Mayweather money, so its ridiculous to think anybody is making that by fighting Keith Thurman.

Since Porter is Thurman's mandatory, and will probably get that fight next, Garcia should sit out a year, and hope Thurman fights him next year before he's goes on to lose his belts to Spence?

Or Garcia should continue fighting the likes of Brandon Rios, and maybe a Victor Ortiz, and finally fight Spence when he has all the belts, is the A-side, and Danny has no choice, other than to take step-aside money to continue avoiding the fight?

Or, he could sign to fight Spence at the end of the year, since Thurman is fighting Porter...make the same, or more than he did to fight Thurman last year, all the while having the opportunity to win a belt and secure a unification with Thurman next year. That makes the most "business" since, unless Garcia knows in his heart he can't beat Spence.

As of right now, neither Danny or Porter bring anything to the table. Thurman has 2 belts, and is the clear A-side to their B-side. If you think Keith Thurman is that big of a draw that they will make more money fighting him, as a clear B, than fighting Errol, then your last name is Porter or Garcia. I won't s#it on Porter because he's Keith's mandatory, so he's guaranteed a fight. Danny is just in line.

[FLY TY]

So are these guys going to put an hold on their careers to rather wait for when Thurman ready?

Exactly...makes no sense. These dudes are so terrified to fight Errol, they're begging Thurman for a rematch.

In Porter's case, he's begging everybody not named Spence. It's quite comical when you think about it.

[noStylez]

Go fight Spence, then winner can take Thurman.

[Tonyu]

Thurman is having a tune up in May then most probably Porter rematch so Danny is not getting a shot until at least early 2019, for some reason Thurman only fights twice a year. if Danny wants a world title and Spence is not available why doesn't he take on winner of Horn v Crawford, with a belt he can offer a unification fight.

[Slicc]

Danny's the softest welterweight right now. He was handed the WBC belt, lost it to the only decent ww on his resume, then vanished for nearly a year. Who takes an 11-month layoff after getting outboxed? Dude must've spent 11 months in therapy, to cope with his 1st loss. Also, is it just me, or does the WBC show favoritism towards Danny Garcia? They gifted him a title eliminator against a complete bum in Rios. I don't care what anyone says, Rios did not deserve a title shot, or even a place within the top 15 of the WBC's ranks. Regardless, I'm so tired of this ***** and his crackhead ass father. I hope he doesn't beat Thurman, because I feel like he'd hold the belts hostage for as long as possible.

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Ok, and you don't know what they were paid either

But I'm not claiming to know. You are. And you don't know. Unless your position is that what's filed with the commission is accurate. In which case, you're saying that Miguel Cotto was only paid 750k for his retirement fight. Which is ludicrous.

Since Porter is Thurman's mandatory, and will probably get that fight next, Garcia should sit out a year, and hope Thurman fights him next year before he's goes on to lose his belts to Spence?

I'm not saying what Garcia should or shouldn't do while he waits for Thurman. I'm just saying I understand why he'd rather fight Thurman than Spence. For all we know, Porter and Garcia could still wind up fighting for the interim title. We'll have to wait and see.

Or Garcia should continue fighting the likes of Brandon Rios, and maybe a Victor Ortiz, and finally fight Spence when he has all the belts, is the A-side, and Danny has no choice, other than to take step-aside money to continue avoiding the fight?

Why would there be step aside money when Haymon controls both fighters? That's not how Haymon operates. If he wants to delay a mandatory, he just gets the guy a bigger offer to fight someone else.

If Spence beats Thurman, then everyone will want to fight Spence. Thurman is #1 in the division right now. So everyone wants to fight him. If Spence is ever #1, then guys will want to fight him. People want to fight whoever is going to make them the most money.

Or, he could sign to fight Spence at the end of the year, since Thurman is fighting Porter...make the same, or more than he did to fight Thurman last year

Oh please stop it with this nonsense that has already been debunked. Garcia would not make the same or more fighting Spence. First of all, Garcia isn't undefeated anymore, so right off the bat his value is lower than it was going into the Thurman fight. Second of all, Spence/Garcia isn't nearly as big of a fight as Thurman/Garcia was, so why would Garcia make the same or more? You're just making things up as you go along and there's no logic to what you're proposing.

Based on the IBF rankings, it seems Haymon is lining up Vargas to fight Spence at the end of the year. Haymon just had Garcia fight a WBC eliminator, so clearly Spence is not the immediate plan for him.

You think it's easy for Haymon to juggle all of these belts? It takes years of meticulous planning. Eliminator after eliminator to prevent non-Haymon fighters from getting into the mandatory position. Haymon now has Thurman's next two WBC mandatories tied up via Porter and Garcia. He's not going to throw that away. He's working on getting Spence's mandatories tied up after Spence is forced to fight the Mexican.

Haymon would be out of business very quickly if he did all the fights you guys want him to do in the order you want him to do them in. There is a method to the madness. There is a reason he has a stranglehold on this division. He's not going to do anything reckless.