was Floyd Mayweather juiced to the gills?

[Spoon23]

You do realize if it wasn't for Floyd there would still be no real ped testing for boxers?

Floyd said, Pac is good, I am good, lets have ped testing and fight. He exposed Pac. After that, Pac never again recorded a knockout. He was praised as this great ko machine. Then he was accused of peds. Then he fought lesser opponents and could not ko any of them. Literally.

Floyd is in a class with Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. Pac is in a class with Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds.

You do realize the hypocrisy in your statement? No?

It was well documented that Floyd Mayweather was making a stand to clean up boxing

Floyd said:

@ 00:20 - Nevada commission is one of the best commision in the world (that's why they absolved me by giving me that late TUE exemption lol) And My ultimate goal is not just USADA (WHO GAVE ME ILLEGAL IVS) and the sport of boxing, but For USADA AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PERIOD.

@ 0:36 - Because there is too much cheating going on in sports! lololololololol



Victor Conte talks about Floyd's low T/E ratio

Probably the most su****ious part for me:

A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.”

Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping.

Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone.

But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio.

Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69.

“That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.”

The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable.








You guys are missing what's the core of this thread, Floyd advocates NO to PEDs so that he is the only one who can cheat and gain an advantage over a clean fighter in the ring. And that is far worse than any cheater that ever lived. He pointed fingers to others so he can cloak himself from being caught cheating, so he thought.

Reminds me of someone special..

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Absolutely correct because it cemented him as the A side for the biggest fighting the history of boxing. That brutal ko probably got him an extra 200million. Green K for the meme

[Spoon23]

Absolutely correct because it cemented him as the A side for the biggest fighting the history of boxing. That brutal ko probably got him an extra 200million. Green K for the meme

hahaha!!

Your so obviously bitter.

This thread is not about marquez. This about Floyd's PEDs. You bringing out something irrelevant shows your pain..

Oh, by the way Marquez did what Floyd can never do was to fight Manny with his cohonez on his sleeves. That's what true warriors do. Bring out there machismo in the ring win, lose or draw. I respect this kinds of fighters. Especially fighters who go out on their shield and go for broke is what separates the men from the boys. That's Why Pacquiao and Marquez will always be respected in my book. Fighting with heart every time they step in the ring is what boxing is all about..

This is not a running, hugging sport.. Floyd does not belong in the same breath as true warriors of the game. Just is.

If you want to save your hero Froid roid. All you have to do is defend him in here, putting up Marquez just shows how fuvked up your arguments are bwahahahahaha!!

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[Dr.Cool]

You do realize the hypocrisy in your statement? No?

It was well documented that Floyd Mayweather was making a stand to clean up boxing

Floyd said:

@ 00:20 - Nevada commission is one of the best commision in the world (that's why they absolved me by giving me that late TUE exemption lol) And My ultimate goal is not just USADA (WHO GAVE ME ILLEGAL IVS) and the sport of boxing, but For USADA AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PERIOD.

@ 0:36 - Because there is too much cheating going on in sports! lololololololol



Victor Conte talks about Floyd's low T/E ratio

Probably the most su****ious part for me:

A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.”

Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping.

Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone.

But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio.

Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69.

“That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.”

The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable.








You guys are missing what's the core of this thread, Floyd advocates NO to PEDs so that he is the only one who can cheat and gain an advantage over a clean fighter in the ring. And that is far worse than any cheater that ever lived. He pointed fingers to others so he can be cloaked from being caught from cheating, so he thought.

Reminds me of someone special..

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Floyd called USADA and had their doctors come. They confirmed he was dehydrated and stayed and made sure there was nothing illegal in the ivs. And stayed while he got it to make sure. Floyd called them to come there.

USADA said this and many other inaccuracies in the story. Hauser responded without ever denying the accusations and basically admitted he made it all up. He was literally paid to write it by hbo. How much do did hbo lose when Floyd left? How much did they lose when Haymon left?

Floyd probably did use peds. But to site the debunked hauser hit piece is idiotic. And yes, he is the reason there is real ped testing in boxing now. However, ironic it may be, he pushed for it and now we have it. But to keep siting a piece whose own author admits is a lie, just makes you sound like an ignorant hater.

[Spoon23]

Floyd called USADA and had their doctors come. They confirmed he was dehydrated and stayed and made sure there was nothing illegal in the ivs. And stayed while he got it to make sure. Floyd called them to come there.

USADA said this and many other inaccuracies in the story. Hauser responded without ever denying the accusations and basically admitted he made it all up. He was literally paid to write it by hbo. How much do did hbo lose when Floyd left? How much did they lose when Haymon left?

Floyd probably did use peds. But to site the debunked hauser hit piece is idiotic. And yes, he is the reason there is real ped testing in boxing now. However, ironic it may be, he pushed for it and now we have it. But to keep siting a piece whose own author admits is a lie, just makes you sound like an ignorant hater.

lolololol You are so gullible.

Floyd paid USADA 150,000 dollars. 5 times more than the usual pay grade for drug testing. Do you think they will snitch Floyd for cheating? Off course not. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Corruption at it's best. Read between the lines homes. Don't be naive.

You guys are missing what's the core of this thread, Floyd advocates NO to PEDs so that he is the only one who can cheat and gain an advantage over a clean fighter in the ring. And that is far worse than any cheater that ever lived. He pointed fingers to others so he can be cloaked himself from being caught cheating, so he thought.

[Spoon23]

WOMAN BEATER!!!

lololololol

Classic!!

"We're gonna beat that woman beater down!"

What he forgot to mention is that he should have said, We are going to beat that PED cheating woman beater down. Bwahahahahaha!!

[Vadrigar.]

Watch and weep.

Floyd objectively lost.

[Vadrigar.]

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Mayweather was sued by Pacquiao. When Pacquiao's lawyers motioned to subpoena his drug test results, medical records, and contracts with USADA, Mayweather quickly settled the case and paid out a large sum of money in order to keep the requested information private. If Mayweather was clean and wanted to clean up the sport of boxing, why not offer full transparency?

Mayweather has a medical team, which is bizarre since no boxer should have his own medical team. Strength and conditioning coaches, yes. Nutrionist and personal chef, yes. Medical team? Absolutely not.

Mayweather was the subject of an explosive report that indicates that he failed 3 drug tests. Mayweather doesn't go to much length at all to deny this report, opting for the say-nothing-and-it-will-go away option. Mayweather accused Pac of being on PEDs. Pacquiao sued him. And WON.

Mayweather tested 2X for having testosterone-to-epitesterone levels of .8 and .6, a massive red flag that points to doping. Usually when this happens, CIR testing is done as a follow up. Not only did USADA not follow up, but they refuse to do CIR testing because they deem that it is too expensive. VADA charged $16,000 for Provodnikov-Matthysse w/ CIR testing. USADA received $150,000 upfront from Team Mayweather for the Pacquiao fight. Red flag, red flag, red flag.

Mayweather rejected VADA testing. If clean, why reject the use of a qualified and effective testing agency that has caught people and is without controversy?

Mayweather rejected a $5 million dollar fine for a positive result. If clean, why not just agree to it? It literally costs nothing and is an excellent insurance for both fighters.

Mayweather had USADA send out an agreement to Team Pacquiao that allowed a TUE to be retroactively granted in the event that a fighter tested positive for a prohibited drug. This agreement also ludicrously stated that neither the NSAC nor the opposing camp had to be notified. Mayweather actually wanted it in writing that he was allowed to dope.

Mayweather was seen by a doctor and approved and declared fit for combat on the day of the weigh in. If he was dehydrated, nevermind severely dehydrated, the doctor would have noticed it. And Mayweather himself signed off on being 100% ready and fit for combat in 24 hours.

Mayweather had banned fluids totaling 750 ML administered in the privacy of his home and was then given approval for a TUE (The****utic Use Exemption) close to 3 weeks after the fight. Mayweather received these fluids mere hours after a doctor had cleared him and deemed him ready for competition.

Mayweather does "vampire" facials, a cosmetic procedure that involves a reinjection of a gel-like substance—platelet rich fibrin matrix (PRFM)—derived from a patient's own blood back into multiple areas of the skin of their face to treat wrinkles. If Floyd's taking blood out of himself to reinject into his face, blood doping is certainly not something he would shy away from.

[Dr.Cool]

[QUOTE=Spoon23;18506819]lolololol You are so gullible.

Floyd paid USADA 150,000 dollars. 5 times more than the usual pay grade for drug testing. Do you think they will snitch Floyd for cheating? Off course not. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Corruption at it's best. Read between the lines homes. Don't be naive.

You guys are missing what's the core of this thread, Floyd advocates NO to PEDs so that he is the only one who can cheat and gain an advantage over a clean fighter in the ring. And that is far worse than any cheater that ever lived. He pointed fingers to others so he can be cloaked himself from being caught cheating, so he thought.

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USADA gets over $10 million a year from the government. If they did anything wrong they would lose that. So apparently, USADA busted Lance Armstrong, but risked their entire funding for Mayweather.

Dang, you think it was the Illuminati? Floyd's probably in the Illuminati, that would explain it all! Its all a big scam for Floyd Mayweather! And you figured it out! The entire world orchestrated this career of over 2 decades! All the fights were fixed! And he still juiced up!

Man, if you believe all this crazy conspiracy crap, I'm done. Common sense, bud. Common sense. You can hate Floyd, that is fine.

Also, Hauser admitted he lied. The Illuminati probably got to him to though.