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  • Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
    Can’t completely rule it out because this day and age I wouldn’t be suprised if any athlete used PEDs

    But think it’s unlikely since he was the one of the first fighters who actually wanted better testing and a clean sport

    Most likely he was juiced to the Gilles with greatness and apparently even with him retired with the 0 and being the best of his era allot of Mother F.uckers on here can’t seem to accept that
    That's where you're being gullible. The markings are on the wall.

    You are missing what's the core of this thread, Floyd advocates NO to PEDs so that he is the only one who can cheat while he points fingers at others so he can gain an advantage over a clean fighter in the ring. And that is far worse than any cheater that ever lived. He points fingers at others so he can cloak himself from being caught cheating, while others play a clean game.

    This is hypocrisy to the highest level. He wants to clean up the sport so that he'll be the only one to be able to cheat. That's what's wrong here. He advocates clean fighting so he'll be the only one to cheat. That's worse than any dog manure you can compare it with.

    It's like a car with Nitros competing with a normally aspirated car, no chance in hell normal aspirated car can win over a car in Nitros. That's exactly what happened. That's what's wrong in this picture. That's hypocrisy to highest level.

    But that said, even with Nitros and home town cooking. Floyd can only muster a fluke win.



    Even Holyfield knows who won that night.

    Evander Holyfield: "I think Manny Pacquiao defeated Floyd Mayweather"




    It was well documented that Floyd Mayweather was making a stand to clean up boxing

    Floyd said:

    @ 00:20 - Nevada commission is one of the best commision in the world (that's why they absolved me by giving me that late TUE exemption lol) And My ultimate goal is not just USADA (WHO GAVE ME ILLEGAL IVS) and the sport of boxing, but For USADA AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PERIOD.

    @ 0:36 - Because there is too much cheating going on in sports! lololololololol



    Victor Conte talks about Floyd's low T/E ratio

    Probably the most su****ious part for me:

    A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.”

    Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping.

    Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone.

    But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio.

    Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69.

    “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.”

    The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable.






    Reminds me of someone special..

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    • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
      That's where you're being gullible. The markings are on the wall.

      You are missing what's the core of this thread, Floyd advocates NO to PEDs so that he is the only one who can cheat while he points fingers at others so he can gain an advantage over a clean fighter in the ring. And that is far worse than any cheater that ever lived. He points fingers at others so he can cloak himself from being caught cheating, while others play a clean game.

      This is hypocrisy to the highest level. He wants to clean up the sport so that he'll be the only one to be able to cheat. That's what's wrong here. He advocates clean fighting so he'll be the only one to cheat. That's worse than any dog manure you can compare it with.

      It's like a car with Nitros competing with a normally aspirated car, no chance in hell normal aspirated car can win over a car in Nitros. That's exactly what happened. That's what's wrong in this picture. That's hypocrisy to highest level.

      But that said, even with Nitros and home town cooking. Floyd can only muster a fluke win.



      Even Holyfield knows who won that night.

      Evander Holyfield: "I think Manny Pacquiao defeated Floyd Mayweather"




      It was well documented that Floyd Mayweather was making a stand to clean up boxing

      Floyd said:

      @ 00:20 - Nevada commission is one of the best commision in the world (that's why they absolved me by giving me that late TUE exemption lol) And My ultimate goal is not just USADA (WHO GAVE ME ILLEGAL IVS) and the sport of boxing, but For USADA AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PERIOD.

      @ 0:36 - Because there is too much cheating going on in sports! lololololololol



      Victor Conte talks about Floyd's low T/E ratio

      Probably the most su****ious part for me:

      A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.”

      Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping.

      Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone.

      But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio.

      Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69.

      “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.”

      The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable.






      Reminds me of someone special..

      [IMG]https://media4.*****.com/media/1224G74lfKYxJS/*****.gif[/IMG]

      Sure buds whatever helps you cope with the loss Manny suffered

      Floyd’s retired for years yet the only time you post something is when it’s Mayweather related and being critical

      Move on

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      • Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
        Sure buds whatever helps you cope with the loss Manny suffered

        Floyd’s retired for years yet the only time you post something is when it’s Mayweather related and being critical

        Move on
        You have to excuse Spoon because he has suffered a great deal since May 2nd.


        He repeatedly quotes the article "Can Boxing Trust USADA" like it's the "bible". He never understood the article was to smear USADA while promoting VADA.



        You are right to not engage with the deranged.





        But SPOON keeps spamming that same post over and over.......Let me set his bullshlt straight for the sake of this thread.....





        Spoon says what he feels is "most su****ious" and quotes his bible and messaiah Thomas Hauser

        .....when a sample has an abnormal TE ratio - CIR testing is needed.......


        The article mistakenly assumed USADA doesn't do CIR testing with the intention is to prove VADA is better because it does CIR test every time. (That's their claim to fame. A 400 dollar test. Lol. Whatever. Smh.)




        The truth is ALL of FLOYDS samples CIR tested. This alone should have dispelled any su****ion according to Spoons own "Bible".


        Right?


        But lets take the truth a step further.......




        ........not only were those same "su****ious" samples with low TE ratios CIR tested - they are monitored by WADAS Athlete Biological Passport -
        ABP for short (ironically something VADA is incapable of currently doing).
        By taking this additional passport approach, it allows USADA to bring forth a doping violation without detecting the origin of testosterone.






        Meanwhile VADA is ONLY CIR testing low TE RATIOS.

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        • travsB in disguise..

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          • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
            You have to excuse Spoon because he has suffered a great deal since May 2nd.


            He repeatedly quotes the article "Can Boxing Trust USADA" like it's the "bible". He never understood the article was to smear USADA while promoting VADA.



            You are right to not engage with the deranged.





            But SPOON keeps spamming that same post over and over.......Let me set his bullshlt straight for the sake of this thread.....





            Spoon says what he feels is "most su****ious" and quotes his bible and messaiah Thomas Hauser

            .....when a sample has an abnormal TE ratio - CIR testing is needed.......


            The article mistakenly assumed USADA doesn't do CIR testing with the intention is to prove VADA is better because it does CIR test every time. (That's their claim to fame. A 400 dollar test. Lol. Whatever. Smh.)




            The truth is ALL of FLOYDS samples CIR tested. This alone should have dispelled any su****ion according to Spoons own "Bible".


            Right?


            But lets take the truth a step further.......




            ........not only were those same "su****ious" samples with low TE ratios CIR tested - they are monitored by WADAS Athlete Biological Passport -
            ABP for short (ironically something VADA is incapable of currently doing).
            By taking this additional passport approach, it allows USADA to bring forth a doping violation without detecting the origin of testosterone.






            Meanwhile VADA is ONLY CIR testing low TE RATIOS.

            Agree a little bit of Spoon died on May 2nd 2015 and he hasn’t been able to come to grips with it since

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            • Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
              travsB in disguise..
              I assume that's aimed at me because you've responded to my previous post with

              Travsb

              I guess you're saying I'm really Travestny. Right?



              Smh.



              Travestny challenged you all to account bans and you can get the mods involved to verify accounts. All of you backed down.



              I know why Spoon spreads false information - but why are you doing it?


              Why not try to dispute the information? Try and prove what I said about CIR and ABP to be false.


              You can't. You're incapable of independent thought and logical reason. Dumbs ass.







              And shouldn't you be searching for Mannys clean test back in the Philippines? Burden of proof is on YOU! Manny already admitted he's a METH head. DEFEND HIS HONOR.

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              • Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                Sure buds whatever helps you cope with the loss Manny suffered

                Floyd’s retired for years yet the only time you post something is when it’s Mayweather related and being critical

                Move on
                lolololol

                I enjoy exposing this fraud. It's become a hobby of mine. I like making you Floyd pom pom girls devastated as I crush your fragile minds in exposing fraudster for what he trully is, a certified A1 FRAUD.





                Reminds me of someone special..

                [IMG]https://media4.*****.com/media/1224G74lfKYxJS/*****.gif[/IMG]

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                • Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
                  was Jersey Joe Walcott juicing??

                  If you're basically trying to say that boxers in the mid and early 20th century were also ripped, so that proves it's not juice, I should just tell you, apparently boxers even as far as back as the 1920s were using PEDs, if not before then. So, I know nothing about Jersey Joe, but yeah, it's quite possible he was.

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                  • Originally posted by Vadrigar. View Post
                    WOMAN BEATER!!!


                    lololololol

                    A woman beater and a PED abuser

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                    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                      I assume that's aimed at me because you've responded to my previous post with

                      Travsb

                      I guess you're saying I'm really Travestny. Right?



                      Smh.



                      Travestny challenged you all to account bans and you can get the mods involved to verify accounts. All of you backed down.



                      I know why Spoon spreads false information - but why are you doing it?


                      Why not try to dispute the information? Try and prove what I said about CIR and ABP to be false.


                      You can't. You're incapable of independent thought and logical reason. Dumbs ass.







                      And shouldn't you be searching for Mannys clean test back in the Philippines? Burden of proof is on YOU! Manny already admitted he's a METH head. DEFEND HIS HONOR.
                      then it'll be easy for you to provide the dirty test then right? you still havent provide that for me, its been months already. show me the dirty test travsB or kick rocks.

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