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  • #21
    Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
    I think Garcia will fight Spence late this year. Probably Ocampo in June. Not every fight is gonna be good one.

    Spence will fight 3 times this year, but that is still bs. It is only three times because he fought in January. January, June, and December. That's still just once every six months really. The problem is Spence should be fighting Ocampo in April, Alexander-Ortiz winner in August and Garcia in December. Then he could fight Ugas next year.

    I did see a video where Spence did said he plans on starting his own promotion. Makes sense. Either way Spence should be way more active. There's nothing wrong with fighting guys like Ocampo and the Robinson-Ugas winner. The problem is waiting six months from one fight to the next to do it.
    People say guys should fight more, but these days there are TV date problems from the sounds of it. 3 seems doable if you got a nice enough name, but even then your purse might be squeezing out 2 or 3 lesser paid guys from a payday so who knows. Its more complicated sh^t I guess is my point.

    There are only so many shows for so many fighters. With anyone with a decent roster, like Haymon, there is gonna be issues with activity.

    And everyone has them. There are plenty of guys on Arum's roster being inactive when he was with HBO (seemingly now he's got more dates to keep more guys active, but we shall see & thats still not necessarily a solved problem). Canelo is likely willingly a 2 fight/a year guy now, but I'm sure there are guys on GBP's roster that aren't fighting like they should be.

    Its a trickier game then people might think it is with setting up fight dates I tend to feel. And I mean if you are making 6 or 7 digits for a TV fight who wants to go down to a club show caliber event for 5 digits just to stay active? I wouldn't if I was in their situation.

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    • #22
      Tyson won his first two belts on Nov. 22, 1986. On Oct. 16th, 1987 Tyson defended his belt for the fourth time. His fifth fight in less than 11 months.

      Why is Spence not doing this?!? Honestly, put them on FS1 or Spike or something, because if Spence was active like that, knocking four, five people out every year, then when he fought Thurman it would be a million buy ppv.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        People say guys should fight more, but these days there are TV date problems from the sounds of it. 3 seems doable if you got a nice enough name, but even then your purse might be squeezing out 2 or 3 lesser paid guys from a payday so who knows. Its more complicated sh^t I guess is my point.

        There are only so many shows for so many fighters. With anyone with a decent roster, like Haymon, there is gonna be issues with activity.

        And everyone has them. There are plenty of guys on Arum's roster being inactive when he was with HBO (seemingly now he's got more dates to keep more guys active, but we shall see & thats still not necessarily a solved problem). Canelo is likely willingly a 2 fight/a year guy now, but I'm sure there are guys on GBP's roster that aren't fighting like they should be.

        Its a trickier game then people might think it is with setting up fight dates I tend to feel. And I mean if you are making 6 or 7 digits for a TV fight who wants to go down to a club show caliber event for 5 digits just to stay active? I wouldn't if I was in their situation.
        That is all true. Still, I think if Spence knocked out Ocampo in early March, Alexander-Ortiz winner June, Ugas in August/September and DSG in December. Then he could wait for six months to build up and hype a fight with Thurman, that would a successful ppv. Put fights like Ocampo and Ugas on whatever channel. Those fights might not be the biggest paydays, but when you ko people like Spence does it would pay off in ppv.

        I know no one will do that anytime soon, but they should. I guess guys are worried someone like Ocampo or Ugas, that they don't take too serious will be a Buster Douglas. It makes sense I guess but its still bull crap.

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        • #24
          Keep that same energy when Spence available

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
            That is all true. Still, I think if Spence knocked out Ocampo in early March, Alexander-Ortiz winner June, Ugas in August/September and DSG in December. Then he could wait for six months to build up and hype a fight with Thurman, that would a successful ppv. Put fights like Ocampo and Ugas on whatever channel. Those fights might not be the biggest paydays, but when you ko people like Spence does it would pay off in ppv.

            I know no one will do that anytime soon, but they should. I guess guys are worried someone like Ocampo or Ugas, that they don't take too serious will be a Buster Douglas. It makes sense I guess but its still bull crap.
            LOL damn you got Spence fighting 5 times in 2018.

            And I don't think its a Buster Douglas thing I think the TV schedule is a problem. I mean to put Spence on TV five times you gotta push him like no other guy on the roster, so plenty of up & comers are gonna be less up & coming & even some names will be sidelined here & there + you are either overpaying him or underpaying him for Bounce TV fights which Spence isn't gonna like or other guys on the roster aren't gonna like.

            I'm a Spence fan, but this Haymon/PBC thing can't go all in on Spence like that. That'd be a bad look & a bad business model. And it'd be a reallllllllly bad look if some guy did knock off Spence, the guy you invested so much time & TV dates into, on Bounce TV in a fight 200k people saw.

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