My thoughts on the Canelo vs GGG Rematch

[HarvardBlue]

I can't really disagree with anything you wrote except your assessment of Brook/Jacobs as "Big Drama Show." I think he was a little surprised by Brook's aggressiveness in the beginning but he knew he wasn't in any danger so he didn't panic. He was eventually able to get the stoppage. On the other hand, he was very cautious of Jacobs because he also knew he had a big punch. Jacobs landed an overhand right in the first round that changed the entire fight. Once he felt Jacobs' power he tried to fight him like he did Lemieux. The problem with that was Jacobs was a much better fighter than Lemieux and didn't make as many mistakes and Golovkin put himself in a few bad positions where Jacobs caught him. Especially in the late rounds. It was easy to outbox Lemieux but he was slow and predictable. Jacobs was quick and used angles to land punches Golovkin didn't see coming. Like you, I think he can do the same thing against Canelo he did in the first fight.

[Southpaw_nano]

Very well thought out and I agree with pretty everything you said but it would be much easier to read if you broke it up into more paragraphs

Thank you for the feed back, broke it down a bit more.

[Eff Pandas]

More paragraphs bro. Holy f#ck at that wall of text.

think its gonna look very similar to the first fight, cant really see either fighter being able to make too many adjustments. Dont know whether its age or not but GGG looks so much slower than he did a few years ago, that could just be cause hes loading up too much. I dont think hes gonna be able to get canelo out of there so i think he should go in there with the intention of winning rounds rather than landing that big shot.

But yea I agree with this largely so if you said this, just in wayyyyyyyyyyyy more words, I'm right there with you.

Probably another 12 round decision. And probably both guys don't alter their previous strategy THAT much. Some changes could happen, hell some changes will happen, but I'm not entirely sold they'll be large enough to drastically change the previous outcome where a KO was never close to happening for either guy. GGG starting quicker & attacking the body more would help him. Canelo fighting 3 minutes of a round would help him.

[Southpaw_nano]

More paragraphs bro. Holy f#ck at that wall of text.



But yea I agree with this largely so if you said this, just in wayyyyyyyyyyyy more words, I'm right there with you.

Probably another 12 round decision. And probably both guys don't alter their previous strategy THAT much. Some changes could happen, hell some changes will happen, but I'm not entirely sold they'll be large enough to drastically change the previous outcome where a KO was never close to happening for either guy. GGG starting quicker & attacking the body more would help him. Canelo fighting 3 minutes of a round would help him.

Yeah lol sorry about that, tried to adjust it a bit I'm not really the writing type but boxing is my passion so I gave it a go.

[Southpaw_nano]

I can't really disagree with anything you wrote except your assessment of Brook/Jacobs as "Big Drama Show." I think he was a little surprised by Brook's aggressiveness in the beginning but he knew he wasn't in any danger so he didn't panic. He was eventually able to get the stoppage. On the other hand, he was very cautious of Jacobs because he also knew he had a big punch. Jacobs landed an overhand right in the first round that changed the entire fight. Once he felt Jacobs' power he tried to fight him like he did Lemieux. The problem with that was Jacobs was a much better fighter than Lemieux and didn't make as many mistakes and Golovkin put himself in a few bad positions where Jacobs caught him. Especially in the late rounds. It was easy to outbox Lemieux but he was slow and predictable. Jacobs was quick and used angles to land punches Golovkin didn't see coming. Like you, I think he can do the same thing against Canelo he did in the first fight.

In order for me to give you a proper response I will have to re watch both matches. No doubt Jacobs is a far better boxer than Lemeuix what I was trying to implement was how disciplined Gennady can be in a match when he needs to be.

[_Maxi]

I don't think Canelo surprised anyone. He lost. He tried to steal rounds by winning the last 30 seconds and many people fell for that.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I expect another dud, with Canelo winning a bit more clearly this time.

[Southpaw_nano]

I expect another dud, with Canelo winning a bit more clearly this time.

I completely disagree with you. Yes Canelo has a chance of winning if he stays consistent boxing Gennady in the middle of the ring. However he will need to have the stamina to go 7 rounds at least were it's not just a short burst but the entire round in order to clearly win the match. Stamina is not something you obtain in 9 months, yes you can get good conditioning in 9 months but not stamina. The only way I see Canelo Winning is if he paces himself round by round in order to not gas himself out but you have to remember that it will be GGG that he is in the ring with so how can you pace yourself against someone that puts you under extreme pressure? If Canelo can figure that out then he has a good chance at winning.

[daggum]

canelo prefers to fight off the back foot as he is strictly a counter puncher. ggg is actually the perefect style for him but ggg is just reall good at his style. canelo sucks when he has to come forward like against floyd. he doenst know what to do and is too slow

[BoxingIsGreat]

I completely disagree with you. Yes Canelo has a chance of winning if he stays consistent boxing Gennady in the middle of the ring. However he will need to have the stamina to go 7 rounds at least were it's not just a short burst but the entire round in order to clearly win the match. Stamina is not something you obtain in 9 months, yes you can get good conditioning in 9 months but not stamina. The only way I see Canelo Winning is if he paces himself round by round in order to not gas himself out but you have to remember that it will be GGG that he is in the ring with so how can you pace yourself against someone that puts you under extreme pressure? If Canelo can figure that out then he has a good chance at winning.

I agree with a lot of your analysis. Good post.

Canelo needs to improve on his stamina. It's something he has had issues with for a long time. In the Mayweather fight, he was once so exhausted he froze on the ropes, with Floyd touching him up and down with soft jabs. In that moment, Canelo was a sitting duck. So, yeah, his stamina isn't up to bar. Must be something they are working hard on at the gym. Canelo will also need to bring his slickest game possible to constantly move out of the way of GGG's bombs. That consumes a lot of energy too.

Now, I was never sold on GGG as this great fighter, and still am not. As soon as he upped his comp, people started asking questions and the decisions he got are still being disputed on these boxing forums. GGG was a good fighter who was disproportionally hyped. The hype was nauseating.

I always saw Golovkin as this nice guy who depended on brute strength, with very few skills, special effects, or attitude. He's robotic and stiff. He was not able to adjust or cut off the ring properly against Canelo (supposedly one of his strengths). GGG won't find many Wades moving forward.

Canelo was basically a JMW fighting a seasoned MW. The size difference was pretty clear to see to objective observers. (Won't get into the weight debate.) He did the best he could under that disadvantage. Now he knows what he has to do to improve on his last performance. GGG's mystique is gone. He looked average in his last 3 fights. I don't think Canelo will respect him much in the rematch, and Canelo is the better, more skilled boxer. That's why I give him the edge.

The first fight was okay, nothing great. I expect this one to be similar, with a little more action (more punches landed by Canelo). I don't know how much Golovkin can change, with his age and inactivity.

War Canelo!