What Would be Your Idea to Improve Judging?

[Lomadeaux]

Every world champion judge should’ve had some boxing experience.

[Lomadeaux]

There are so many things about boxing that people who have never been punched in the face will never understand.

[Madison Boxing]

"i have at a local event."

IE i either sat close at one show, once, or i am lying entirely


away with you, the grown men are talking.

Been to plenty of local events but cant afford a ringside seat at the big fights, not hard to understand. Will leave you and the 'grown men' banko villas and big dunn to talk your usual ****e.

[The Big Dunn]

1. Banko Villas is a glue sniffing troll who probably can't even tie his own shoes.

2. Most had Golovkin beating Canelo and Kovalev should've been given the decision against Ward, though it wasn't unfathomable to have Ward winning. I just think there's a stronger case for Kovalev.

Ok, but he is right about Dramshow.

I agree with you on both counts.

[Illmatic94]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Vegas was more of Wards back yard than it was Kovalev's. Last I checked Cali was closer to Nevada than Russia. As for the A side, I thought that Ward was ranked #1 and Kov #2, but that may have been reversed and then switched after that fight.
I don't remember Kov getting his nose busted, but to be honest with you, I wasn't really as outraged over the first match as I was the second one. IIRC I had Kovalev up by a round or two in a close fight in the first match, but the second match was a series of nut shots, had no idea what the ref was doing calling it off.

but we can't play that "backyard" game because then how do you explain Canelo getting a draw card vs Floyd, the lifetime Vegas fighter.

and Kovalev also received a close split decision vs Boone in Boone's hometown of Atlanta. in a fight he was dropped in. there goes the "backyard" theory.

if the Ward/Kovalev judges were truly motivated by money then I would assume they'll give it to Kovalev who's more exciting than Ward. Knockouts are easier to sell than slick boxing. and let's not pretend like Ward is this huge A side star anyway. the PPV bombed at the end of the day.

a fight that truly warranted the outrage and accusations of corruption was Abril vs Rios. that sht right there is really indefensible since theres zero arguments for Rios winning. whereas Ward has a case in saying he beat Kovalev.

[Luilun]

To not use 3 Judges from the United States . One judge from the states one Judge from the challengers Country and one from another alternate country. This How people Like Castillo and Madaina got robbed of their wins

[john l]

Boxing fans scream and complain about judges almost daily. but you offer no solution to something you believe is so rotten. if there's rotten food in your kitchen you don't just leave it there.

offer your solution to improve judging.

the job a boxing judge has is actually scary and difficult when you think about it. they are tasked to score a winner with the naked eye. from one angle. no replays. no luxury of rescoring the fight a hundred times like fans have. compubox means sht to them since those numbers are used to just ****e up the telecast. those numbers mean nothing and are 95% inaccurate.

Imagine your first reaction to who you thought won a fight. then imagine having to stick with this decision forever. your first score. thats it. alot of you guys rewatch a fight then change the winner. judges dont have that luxury. the only way to be on equal terms with judges is to watch a fight one time. score it. and never watch it again. but we watch a fight a hundred times and dissect every second then we attack judges after weeks and months of studying a fight.

here's an idea: have the three judges sit inside booths in different spots of the building. with just a monitor and headsets. no commentary. no unofficial cards flashed on the screen. all they hear is punches and crowd noise. they have free reign to utilize slow motion however they please. now they watch the fight from every angle. they now are no different from fans at home.

this will clear up bad scoring right away. all that talk about styles preference and bias should go out the window because the only criteria that matters is clean punching. on an HD monitor with replays they have a better view of punches than ringside.



what is your solution?

Nice points but would not say compu box is 95% wrong though.But is just a bit of info to consider because it is just 2 guys hitting buttons so people put TOO MUCH weight on them.But I think they at least get SOMEWHAT close most of time.The prob now is a lot of promoters/networks don't wanna pay for compubox and just hire two bums off the street to do it.Compubox at least has some training and review fights sometimes.People gotta watch if its CB or just that networks version.I think WBSS have been off on a most of their fights but at least the right guy has won everyone so far.

[Eff Pandas]

I think the ABC guys who come up with the rules or influence the rules of boxing need to make a harder line on what wins a fight. I don't think it should be as subjective. Thats the #1 problem with scoring a fight. Everyone knows who won a fight, but nobody can tell you what exactly will win a round &/or everyone will tell you something different. The fight isn't won as a whole. The fight is won a round at a time. The fact its so subjective what'll win you that round at a time needs to be fixed.

Few outcomes in sports with clear & concise scoring rules have disputed rulings. The hard part is how you go about making it less subjective. Personally I think boxing would need to be more sci-fi before that'll get figured out. I think in theory you could make a microchip for gloves that would measure punches landed & the force of those punches & you could simply give the round to the guy who did the most damage overall between the punches landed & the force they landed with according to those numbers. You wouldn't even need a judge. Just get a print out round by round of who did the most damage.

[Bad_Guy]

As others have mentioned, i'd like an international group of judges (max 1 judge from the host nation), and i like the idea of a 4th judge to ensure no draws.

[Illmatic94]

Every world champion judge should’ve had some boxing experience.

mayweather scored garcia/guerrero a draw.