Comments Thread For: Eubank: I'll Fully Dominate Groves, Take Him Out Between 6 and 8

[apollocreed]

I have watched him for his whole career, and stoppages are stoppages. It's still an accumulation of power. It seems to only be Eubank that is degraded for not knocking everybody cold (what happened in his last fight, against someone supposedly much too big for him to hurt?

We will agree to disagree on Froch. It took 10 seconds for him to find his feet after being caught cold and then he took Groves full blooded shots no problem.

Agree to disagree?? You're talking absolute **** regarding Froch being a flash knock down, as others have pointed out.
Just because he recovered in 10 seconds doesn't mean he wasn't badly hurt - his legs told the real story.
Froch was universally known for a having an iron jaw, and being super fit, which increases recovery time when hurt. He did incredibly well to survive that round, but that was just Froch showing what a special fighter he was.

[soul_survivor]

As a guy picking & betting Eubank Jr these are the things I'm most worried about.

I almost feel like the less exciting this fight is the better Eubank Jr's chances are cuz that means he's being overly careful. Being overly careful & abusing Groves with his speed, power + combos round after round I think gets him a wide decision or late stoppage & is the easiest path of victory for him.

If he's sticking around too much in front of Groves & trying to throw 15 uppercuts in a row or other outrageous sh^t thats when Groves can do some damage & win the fight.

A firefight is where I feel like Groves has his best opportunity & often Eubank Jr seems to prefer that type of fight with a unwilling participant who can't hang. Groves can hang. And thats why I'm looking forward to this fight cuz I think it'll be a fun watch whoever wins or comes up short.

I'm trying to picture Eubank doing his best to outbox Groves but he lacks a jab and I have never seen much of an outside game from him. At some stage they wil trade and its all down to who can stand the most shots.

Its why this is such a toss up for me, I know gRoves is the better boxer, by some distance even but he is worn out and very up and down. Eubank is busy, fit and strong. Lets see which set of advantages win out.

[Eff Pandas]

I'm trying to picture Eubank doing his best to outbox Groves but he lacks a jab and I have never seen much of an outside game from him. At some stage they wil trade and its all down to who can stand the most shots.

True Eubank Jr doesn't do much with his jab (& he should do more).

But I guess what I mean is to move in & out while measuring his time inside better then he often does vs these guys he's outgunned & just a level or three better than. But yea I think your right there will be some toe to toe exchanges here & how many there are will likely up Groves chances to win. My hope is Eubank Jr shows some level improvements here or he uses more intelligence & doesn't play into Groves strengths & carefully & methodically wears Groves down.

Its why this is such a toss up for me, I know gRoves is the better boxer, by some distance even but he is worn out and very up and down. Eubank is busy, fit and strong. Lets see which set of advantages win out.

It is a nice clash for the reasons you suggest. Idk that I see Groves as THAT better a boxer overall with some of his deficiencies, but strategically I think he's shown more in knowing what he is & what he isn't & idk that Eubank Jr has that figured out yet & this is the type of fight that could show him.

[alexguiness]

It should come down to Groves's conditioning, if he stays at range he can out jab Eubank easily.

I think Eubank will have moments in the middle rounds, but if Groves is smart and economical with his effort he can win the championship rounds and get a decision.

I see it as 55/45% in Groves favour.

[soul_survivor]

True Eubank Jr doesn't do much with his jab (& he should do more).

But I guess what I mean is to move in & out while measuring his time inside better then he often does vs these guys he's outgunned & just a level or three better than. But yea I think your right there will be some toe to toe exchanges here & how many there are will likely up Groves chances to win. My hope is Eubank Jr shows some level improvements here or he uses more intelligence & doesn't play into Groves strengths & carefully & methodically wears Groves down.



It is a nice clash for the reasons you suggest. Idk that I see Groves as THAT better a boxer overall with some of his deficiencies, but strategically I think he's shown more in knowing what he is & what he isn't & idk that Eubank Jr has that figured out yet & this is the type of fight that could show him.

yep, Eubank is gonna learn a lot about the difference in facing sub par middleweights and a super middle who can punch. If he picks up in the first couple rounds that he cant just hang his chin out there, then we'll see just how smart and well schooled he is.

A big concern is the father, who doesnt offer much of value in the corner and often seems to be at odds with that old guy training jr. I cant remember his name. Its been that way for years now, lets hope this is a more cohesive unit.

[ArturoBalboa]

As a guy picking & betting Eubank Jr these are the things I'm most worried about.

I almost feel like the less exciting this fight is the better Eubank Jr's chances are cuz that means he's being overly careful. Being overly careful & abusing Groves with his speed, power + combos round after round I think gets him a wide decision or late stoppage & is the easiest path of victory for him.

If he's sticking around too much in front of Groves & trying to throw 15 uppercuts in a row or other outrageous sh^t thats when Groves can do some damage & win the fight.

A firefight is where I feel like Groves has his best opportunity & often Eubank Jr seems to prefer that type of fight with a unwilling participant who can't hang. Groves can hang. And thats why I'm looking forward to this fight cuz I think it'll be a fun watch whoever wins or comes up short.

I actually think the opposite of this and the less exciting the fight is means that groves is boxing being his jab and sticking to a game plan, but for eubank to win he has to drag him into a war and get him to exchange at mid range.

If eubank is able to get in and unload his combos and get back out again then he's going to have to show something he hasn't shown before.

Groves has by far the better jab so I think eubank is going to have to work to get in range and earn the right to get off, not sure how keen he'll be to move back out of range once he's where he wants to be.
Soon find out though, can't wait for this fight. Do you have tickets?

[ArturoBalboa]

I have watched him for his whole career, and stoppages are stoppages. It's still an accumulation of power. It seems to only be Eubank that is degraded for not knocking everybody cold (what happened in his last fight, against someone supposedly much too big for him to hurt?

We will agree to disagree on Froch. It took 10 seconds for him to find his feet after being caught cold and then he took Groves full blooded shots no problem.

How many other fighters land five or six punch combos and leave their opponent upright, even somewhat unphased on occasion. Not Khan type tip tap straight punches either, power shots from his boots, consecutive uppercuts right on the button. At middleweight he's proven not to be a power puncher.
Wether he's found some KO power at 168 is an intriguing question because the yildirim stoppage was inpresssive but regardless of your chin if you get caught while throwing yourself anyone can go.

Flash knockdown, took his shots no problem. Come on, did you see how cagey he fought in the rematch? You don't even have to watch the first fight to know froch respected groves power in that fight. Even got his legs stiffened with a groves jab in the second fight.
Don't know what to say if you can't see that groves is the bigger puncher in this fight.

[hugh grant]

Punching g power isn't any good if you can't land with regularity.
Brook could take GGG punches as could nelo.
Eubank spoars with cruiserweight so I don't think groves punch power is anything to worry about. Eubank snr took benns power. I doubt groves hits as hard as benn

[son of bonters]

Eubank snr took benns power. I doubt groves hits as hard as benn

F**k does that have to do with anything?

[j0zef]

In either case, they're both annoying and ridiculous loud mouths. At least one of them will finally shut their trap.