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    #81
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Wilder is making a voluntary defense against King Kong, the most highly regarded contender in the world.

    Wilder flew overseas to make a mandatory defense against Povetkin IN RUSSIA.

    The facts don't support your premise.
    What Wilder is doing now has NOTHING to do what you posted which was false .


    You still have NO answer for ANYTHING i posted , which was basically why iwas Wilder calling out Klitchko when he had already had a Joshua fight scheduled ? And didnt call him out when the window was there ? Your b.s cant answer bc the FACTUAL dates i posted shows whats what and when.

    Wilder didnt fly to Russia he didnt make it there bc the SECOND that TRACE amounts ( which was STILL legal under WBC rules ) he and team dibella took off without even a chance to resolve anything and came back to the states

    You can use all the excuses of blaming you like , Wilders actions speak for themselves and is NO different than rescheduling an Ortiz fight which would have happened with Povetkin had they TRIED to sort it out instead they dragged a court case out .


    Wilder is fighting Ortiz bc he CHOSE to not wait for Joshua who he would have been fighting instead of Parker now ,and made what turned out to be probably the dumbest mistake in boxing history should he lose to Wilder . Hes also fighting Ortiz bc he would have looked bad .

    Joshua has defeated 4 top 10 guys in WILDERS WBC division already and Wilder is afraid to be compared to Joshua should he look worse against them is the only logical reasoning for his decision to fight Ortiz .

    Who has Wilder defeated again so far ?

    You can keep bigging up Wilder all you like , without an Ortiz win hes as FLAT as HW champion as ive ever seen . It 2018 , i still dont believe you actually understand what a watered down resume is . Im certainly convinced you dont fully understand much outside numbers .

    It would look like one that started in 2008 to present .

    And going by his standard of Joshua defeating a OLD worn down Klitchko ,he shouldn't get credit if went by WILDERS premise ! lol
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-18-2018, 06:09 AM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      why iwas Wilder calling out Klitchko when he had already had a Joshua fight scheduled ? And didnt call him out when the window was there ?
      He called him out before the Fury fight, saying he wanted Klitschko after he cleared his mandatories (Fury was a double mandatory). Not Wilder's fault Klitschko lost and then took a long hiatus.

      Klitschko lost his titles the same year Wilder won his title. The only window to call out Klitschko was before he lost, but he had a fight scheduled, so Wilder called him out to fight after that fight. Wilder & Klitschko have the same manager and if Fury hadn't upset Klitschko, Klitschko vs. Wilder was very likely for 2016 once Klitschko fulfilled the last fight on his HBO deal.


      Wilder didnt fly to Russia he didnt make it there bc the SECOND that TRACE amounts ( which was STILL legal under WBC rules ) he and team dibella took off without even a chance to resolve anything and came back to the states
      I didn't say he flew to Russia. I said he flew overseas, which he did. He never made it to Russia because Povetkin was caught cheating and the WBC refused to allow the fight. Wilder still wanted to fight, but the WBC said no. Not sure how you can still try to defend Povetkin over supposed "trace" amounts when HE WAS CAUGHT CHEATING AGAIN. You look ridiculous when you still try to make excuses for him when he failed ANOTHER test after that.


      You can use all the excuses of blaming you like , Wilders actions speak for themselves and is NO different than resceduling an Ortiz fight which would have happened with Povetkin had they TRIED to sort it out .
      Povetkin was given another chance and FAILED ANOTHER TEST! Stop trying to rewrite history.

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        #83
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        He called him out before the Fury fight, saying he wanted Klitschko after he cleared his mandatories (Fury was a double mandatory). Not Wilder's fault Klitschko lost and then took a long hiatus.

        Klitschko lost his titles the same year Wilder won his title. The only window to call out Klitschko was before he lost, but he had a fight scheduled, so Wilder called him out to fight after that fight. Wilder & Klitschko have the same manager and if Fury hadn't upset Klitschko, Klitschko vs. Wilder was very likely for 2016 once Klitschko fulfilled the last fight on his HBO deal.




        I didn't say he flew to Russia. I said he flew overseas, which he did. He never made it to Russia because Povetkin was caught cheating and the WBC refused to allow the fight. Wilder still wanted to fight, but the WBC said no. Not sure how you can still try to defend Povetkin over supposed "trace" amounts when HE WAS CAUGHT CHEATING AGAIN. You look ridiculous when you still try to make excuses for him when he failed ANOTHER test after that.




        Povetkin was given another chance and FAILED ANOTHER TEST! Stop trying to rewrite history.
        Again WHY did he call out Klitchko 3 months after Klitchko had already scheduled a Joshua fight ? You are LYING again , Klitchko did not have an opponent scheduled after the Fury rematch was cancelled ,and Wilder did NOT have to fight Arreola , did he ?

        Im not defending Povetkin , im clearly showing Wilder did not want the fight even though he was still under legal limits by the WBC rules still made a court case out of it ....

        Povetkin did not fail another test that involved , he was cleared after that . You are rewriting history .What Povetkin did AFTER Wilder would have not pertained to that situation . You are trying to CREATE obstacles of blame to make like the fight wasnt possible .

        " He ( Wilder) called him ( Klitchko ) out before the Fury fight, "

        That wouldbe AFTER he won the title in Jan. 2015 , correct ? Like when his manager said he would NOT be rushed into a Klitchko fight right ? Ha Ha


        You are the biggest LIAR on NSB ...... dont you know that ?
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-18-2018, 06:49 AM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Again WHY did he call out Klitchko 3 months after Klitchko had already scheduled a Joshua fight ?
          Because he was hoping Klitschko would win so he could fight him. Just like when he called out Klitschko before the Fury fight, hoping he'd win so he could fight him.


          You are LYING again , Klitchko did not have an opponent scheduled after the Fury rematch was cancelled ,and Wilder did NOT have to fight Arreola , did he ?
          Lying again? What was the lie? You argue against things nobody said and then claim they're lying. Did you not think your tactic was obvious?

          The Fury rematch was canceled TEN WEEKS AFTER Wilder fought Arreola. See how this works? You constantly post false information that makes absolutely no sense in reality, but you hope to overwhelm the community with such a large volume of bull**** that everybody gives up on every bothering to point out the inaccuracies.

          After the Fury rematch was canceled, Klitschko almost immediately began negotiating with Joshua, which again was MONTHS after Wilder fought Arreola. Literally nothing you're saying is making any sense.


          Povetkin did not fail another test , he was cleared after that . You are rewriting history .What Povetkin did AFTER Wilder would have not pertained to that situation .
          Povetkin getting caught cheating in his very next fight shows that his excuses from the previous fight shouldn't have been believed.

          You're making excuses for why Povetkin maybe didn't cheat, even though he was caught cheating again in his next fight. Think about how silly that makes you look.

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            #85
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            Again WHY did he call out Klitchko 3 months after Klitchko had already scheduled a Joshua fight ? You are LYING again , Klitchko did not have an opponent scheduled after the Fury rematch was cancelled ,and Wilder did NOT have to fight Arreola , did he ?
            I already answered your question. If Klitschko beat Joshua, he wanted to fight him after. Just like if Klitschko beat Fury, he wanted to fight him after. Common sense.

            I already told you that the Arreola fight took place MONTHS BEFORE THE FURY REMATCH WAS CANCELED. In your bizarre alternate universe where Wilder could have fought Klitschko after the Fury cancellation, what does the Arreola fight, which took place months before, have to do with anything? You're not making any sense. We both know you're a troll, but this is D-level lazy trolling. You're not even trying.


            Im not defending Povetkin , im clearly showing Wilder did not want the fight even though he was still under legal limits by the WBC rules still made a court case out of it
            Wilder proved in court that Povetkin knowingly cheated, which is why Wilder was awarded $5 million. Povetkin was then caught cheating again. Why are you defending a cheater? Why are you criticizing the guy that didn't cheat? Your priorities are completely backwards.


            That wouldbe AFTER he won the title in Jan. 2015 , correct ? Like when his manager said he would NOT be rushed into a Klitchko fight right ?
            They have the same manager. Their shared manager said Wilder needed a couple fights before Klitschko. So, that same year, Wilder quickly fought two fights and then called out Klitschko. Their shared manager had plans for them to fight in 2016, plans that were ruined when Fury upset Klitschko.

            You can't blame Wilder's team wanting a couple more fights as the reason the fight didn't happen because Wilder fought those two fights very quickly while Klitschko was pre-occupied. Before Wilder even won the title, Klitschko was already deep in negotiations to fight Jennings. Wilder was ready for Klitschko right after that, but Klitschko had to make a double mandatory against Fury, hence Wilder pushing for a 2016 fight.

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              #86
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              Because he was hoping Klitschko would win so he could fight him. Just like when he called out Klitschko before the Fury fight, hoping he'd win so he could fight him.




              Lying again? What was the lie? You argue against things nobody said and then claim they're lying. Did you not think your tactic was obvious?

              The Fury rematch was canceled TEN WEEKS AFTER Wilder fought Arreola. See how this works? You constantly post false information that makes absolutely no sense in reality, but you hope to overwhelm the community with such a large volume of bull**** that everybody gives up on every bothering to point out the inaccuracies.

              After the Fury rematch was canceled, Klitschko almost immediately began negotiating with Joshua, which again was MONTHS after Wilder fought Arreola. Literally nothing you're saying is making any sense.




              Povetkin getting caught cheating in his very next fight shows that his excuses from the previous fight shouldn't have been believed.

              You're making excuses for why Povetkin maybe didn't cheat, even though he was caught cheating again in his next fight. Think about how silly that makes you look.
              Klitchko announced he was fighting Fury in July 2015 you DOPE .

              The Fury rematch was called off in September 2016 , Wilder was available to fight him ,he hadnt fought since July ?????? That would have been plenty of time to set up a fight with Klitchko in 2017 before Joshua stepped in the picture .

              It was in FACT Wilder HIMSELF stating he wants a SOFT touch up fight bc his hands hurting ???????

              See you fool ,its YOU'RE reality that continues to fail on here .

              I brought up Arreola just to show the opposition Wilder was fighting .
              Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-18-2018, 07:21 AM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                The Fury rematch was called off in September 2016 , Wilder was available to fight him ,he hadnt fought since July ?????? That would have been plenty of time to set up a fight with Klitchko in 2017 before Joshua stepped in the picture .
                Fury rematch was called off at the end of September. Within two weeks, Klitschko and Joshua were deep in negotiations to fight in December 2016. Klitschko got injured and the fight got delayed, but the original deal remained in place.

                During this period of time, how was Wilder supposed to make a fight with Klitschko when Wilder had just suffered two major injuries, a broken hand and torn biceps, and would be unable to fight the rest of the year?

                This is the problem with all of your posts. They make absolutely no sense once you consider the actual facts. Klitschko & Joshua made a deal while Wilder was out with a broken hand and torn biceps, yet in your mind, somehow, while he was injured, Wilder was supposed to quickly make a fight with Klitschko on a week's notice to sneak in before he made a deal with Joshua. You make absolutely no sense.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  Fury rematch was called off at the end of September. Within two weeks, Klitschko and Joshua were deep in negotiations to fight in December 2016. Klitschko got injured and the fight got delayed, but the original deal remained in place.

                  During this period of time, how was Wilder supposed to make a fight with Klitschko when Wilder had just suffered two major injuries, a broken hand and torn biceps, and would be unable to fight the rest of the year?

                  This is the problem with all of your posts. They make absolutely no sense once you consider the actual facts. Klitschko & Joshua made a deal while Wilder was out with a broken hand and torn biceps, yet in your mind, somehow, while he was injured, Wilder was supposed to quickly make a fight with Klitschko on a week's notice to sneak in before he made a deal with Joshua. You make absolutely no sense.
                  Wilder did NOT want Klitchko ,HE SELF said he wanted to TEST his hands out against SOFT opposition ???? Thats why he scheduled a Wawzyk fight , he was not interested with LEGIT competition AFTER the Arreola fight otherwise he would have got Klitchko .


                  Wilder fought in Feb. 2017 months before Klitchko fought Joshua ,yet im too believe he couldn't set a Klitchko date when Fury cancelled in 2016 ?

                  You can fill up the forum with confusion of JARGON all you like ,everyone has you figured out !
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-18-2018, 07:34 AM.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666
                    he was not interested with LEGIT competition AFTER the Arreola fight otherwise he would have got Klitchko
                    How? How could he have gotten Klitschko when Klitschko had already signed to fight Joshua months before Wilder was able to fight?

                    Your arguments only make sense in an alternate universe where we ignore all concepts of space and time.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      How? How could he have gotten Klitschko when Klitschko had already signed to fight Joshua months before Wilder was able to fight?

                      Your arguments only make sense in an alternate universe where we ignore all concepts of space and time.
                      Wilder could have negotiated a fight ,fights dont happen over night .You work in the business though , right ?

                      Wilder fought TWO months before Klitchko fought Joshua , despite his choice of a soft touch and self admitted injuries .

                      He could have scheduled a Klitchko fight that wouldn't even have had him fighting that soon anyway . You are again FABRICATING time placements which why i continue to post them bc you eventually run into wall .

                      Stop being a moron with moronic excuses !

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