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  • turnedup
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    #41
    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
    The other champs in the división surely they have a lot of great fighters in their resume like Groves, Murray, and all those euro bums...
    Nobody is up here calling them world enders or the greatest thing since ring girls...but you and others are of Ramirez. Let's not get into semantics because you will lose that battle FAST. Not one person in here has called them great.

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    • bigdunny1
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      #42
      Just stop Arum with these ridiculous comparisons. He's not Monzon and he ain't even a draw. This weekend drew only 741K viewers



      That's HBO Boxing After Dark numbers but on ESPN who is in 3X more homes then HBO. And only had live attendance of 3,200 in a arena that is designed to hold 10,000. But keep feeding this 6'3 dude bums. He hasn't faced a single top 10 guy (on ESPN, RING or any creditible ranking) at 168 no less when he is bigger then most 175lbers lol
      Last edited by bigdunny1; 02-06-2018, 01:42 PM.

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      • Mexican_Puppet
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        #43
        Originally posted by turnedup
        Nobody is up here calling them world enders or the greatest thing since ring girls...but you and others are of Ramirez. Let's not get into semantics because you will lose that battle FAST. Not one person in here has called them great.
        A lot of people is calling Ramírez a bum,, thats ****** too.

        And Arum is his boss, is normal.

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        • Mexican_Puppet
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          #44
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          Just stop Arum with these ridiculous comparisons. He's not Monzon and he ain't even a draw. This weekend drew only 741K viewers



          That's HBO Boxing After Dark numbers but on ESPN who is in 3X more homes then HBO. And only had live attendance of 3,200 in a arena that is designed to hold 10,000. But keep feeding this 6'3 dude bums. He hasn't faced a single top 10 guy (on ESPN, RING or any creditible ranking) at 168 no less when he is bigger then most 175lbers lol
          741 k viewers is a good number to a young champion.

          Second.

          Hart was the #10 in the world ranking,

          Abraham was like top-5 or 6.

          Vlasov actually is on the top-10 in the 175 division

          Medina was in the top-20.

          And Ramírez is not drained.

          He has the better stamina

          Vs Hart, Ramírez threw 750 punches...
          Last edited by Mexican_Puppet; 02-06-2018, 01:53 PM.

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            #45
            Did Zurdo just murder his wife?

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            • bigdunny1
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              #46
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
              741 k viewers is a good number to a young champion.

              Second.

              Hart was the #10 in the world ranking,

              Abraham was like top-5 or 6.
              Yeah if he was on HBO or Showtime but this fight was on ESPN. PBC got bashed for better numbers then that and didn't get anywhere near the promo across all ESPN platforms that Top Rank get's. Shyt ratings and shyt attendance only 3K in a 10K arena. Arum been trying to sell this guy as a Mexican draw and he's not. And when was Hart top 10 ranked? And please don't quote WBO bogus rankings. Abraham was washed up and many feel he lost to Martin Murray who's not even that good at Middleweight.
              Last edited by bigdunny1; 02-06-2018, 02:06 PM.

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              • Mexican_Puppet
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                #47
                Originally posted by bigdunny1
                Yeah if he was on HBO or Showtime but this fight was on ESPN. PBC got bashed for better numbers then that and didn't get anywhere near the promo across all ESPN platforms that Top Rank get's. Shyt ratings and shyt attendance only 3K in a 10K arena. Arum been trying to sell this guy as a Mexican draw and he's not. And when was Hart top 10 ranked? And please don't quote WBO bogus rankings. Abraham was washed up and many feel he lost to Martin Murray who's not even that good at Middleweight.
                When? At the moment that he fought with Zurdo.

                Look the boxrec list.

                Hart is #5.

                Hart is better than most of the euro bums that are fighting in that tournament.

                Murray? Zurdo will destroy easily that bum.

                Mexican fighters are not easy yo to sell, mexicans are not all like Canelo, Ramírez as most of the champs in my country are not famous.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                  When? At the moment that he fought with Zurdo.

                  Look the boxrec list.

                  Hart is #5.

                  Hart is better than most of the euro bums that are fighting in that tournament.

                  Murray? Zurdo will destroy easily that bum.

                  Mexican fighters are not easy yo to sell, mexicans are not all like Canelo, Ramírez as most of the champs in my country are not famous.
                  So now we going by boxrec? lol So with a straight face you telling folks hart is the 5th best 168lb fighter in the world despite not being on the top 10 rankings at 168 for RING or ESPN and is not currently ranked in top 15 by 2 of the top 4 ABC
                  belt orgs. Phuk out of here. lol

                  And Ramirez has been pushed by one of the biggest promoters in the game for years appearing on numerous HBO, HBOPPV, and ESPN cards including headlining. He's not some unknown Mexican never given a spot light fighting on non USA televised cards with some bum promoter. Arum has been pushing him as the next canelo for at least 3 years and still he can't sell tickets or draw viewers. lol

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                    A lot of people is calling Ramírez a bum,, thats ****** too.

                    And Arum is his boss, is normal.
                    Actually the running narrative I see here and around his name is that he is somehow Golovkin's boogieman. I'm sorry to break it to people but this guy hasn't shown anything that makes that even remotely a possibility at this point of his career.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      So now we going by boxrec? lol So with a straight face you telling folks hart is the 5th best 168lb fighter in the world despite not being on the top 10 rankings at 168 for RING or ESPN and is not currently ranked in top 15 by 2 of the top 4 ABC
                      belt orgs. Phuk out of here. lol

                      And Ramirez has been pushed by one of the biggest promoters in the game for years appearing on numerous HBO, HBOPPV, and ESPN cards including headlining. He's not some unknown Mexican never given a spot light fighting on non USA televised cards with some bum promoter. Arum has been pushing him as the next canelo for at least 3 years and still he can't sell tickets or draw viewers. lol
                      Dude I really don't get the fascination with this fighter. Like beyond height what has he done that's even remotely impressive.

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