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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #111
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Manny Pacquiao refused to fight Jeff Horn again, because the only way that Arum was willing to do the fight was with Australia fronting the money (which stunk to high heaven). Put the fight anywhere else in the world (with Pacquiao getting his money) and the fight happens.
    Real fighters who lose will accept whatever to prove it was a fluke instead of whining.

    Lennox Lewis did it.
    Choco did it. Though he failed
    Tarver did it.
    Marquez did it.
    Humberto Soto did it.
    Hell, MF'n Kneeguel Cotto did it.

    I will keep asking: why is Manny not held to the same high standard?

    Originally posted by WholeSoul75
    And to prove pac lost wbo announced they will rescore it and it ends up the same.... yeah no shinanigans. So if pac is running from horn but would drop everything to fight mayweather. Im confused...
    The Floyd fight was all about money. Manny didn't legit believe he'd win that fight. But he was scared there too, scared of getting nailed with a right hand counter that put him to sleep again. His mistake is, even if he'd flailed into a flush right from Floyd, it wouldn't have dropped him. That's why he wanted the rematch.

    No, he felt Horn's power and wanted nothing more to do with it.

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    • pasawayako
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      #112
      this will be an exciting fight. 100x much better than floIV vs gregor fight.

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      • HarvardBlue
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        #113
        Originally posted by Bluebird
        They didn’t need each other to be relevant, they both could do it on their own, both of them have the biggest fan base in their heyday.
        Where's PAC's fan base now that he's lost twice? Mayweather made a killing fighting a MMA guy.

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          #114
          Originally posted by WesternChamp
          you brought up only because of floyd being inactive.
          I thought it was pretty clear what I was getting at. Yes, Pacquiao was #1 when Mayweather was inactive. Not Pacquiao's fault but those were the facts. Kinda like when Ward wasn't considered P4P #1 when he was inactive.

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          • Bluebird
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            #115
            Originally posted by revelated
            That's it, just target that short span of years when Manny was dominant and ignore the majority of years when he wasn't. Like...



            Where Manny LOST!

            "No matter how...you...cut it, slice it or weigh it, he LOST to Timothy Bradley." -- Floyd



            Now, if this were any other fighter, peeps on here would be screaming about ducking. Yet when it's Manny - ONLY when it's Manny, he gets a free pass and excuses for clearly ducking this man that bullied the hell out of him.

            Let's face facts bro.

            Manny ducked Jeff "The Hornet" Horn, a schoolteacher that people said was a bum that Manny cherry picked.

            Said "bum" proceeded to turn Manny into a B on the run. Them's facts.

            Manny is now working an undercard that Jeff "The Hornet" Horn is headlining. Manny's now a B-Side, undercard fighter. All because he DUCKED a rematch when he got called out by Horn.

            IF it were really a robbery, Horn would run with his victory. Instead, he gave Manny a chance to prove him wrong - and Manny ran.

            Facts.
            Pac is 39 and shouldn’t be fighting anymore. His next fight whoever his opponent is should be his farewell fight. Now if Horn beats Crawford, it makes sense if he fights Horn again and retire after that, win or lose.

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            • Bluebird
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              #116
              Originally posted by harwri008
              Where's PAC's fan base now that he's lost twice? Mayweather made a killing fighting a MMA guy.
              They’re still around, but you won’t see them because you’re not one of them. Yes, Mayweather made a killing fighting an MMA guy because a lot of people who watched the fight were MMA fans who were hoping that the MMA guy knocks him out. I didn’t think he would beat Mayweather in a boxing match. I give it to both of them though, they’re both good business men.

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              • Scipio2009
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                #117
                Originally posted by revelated
                Real fighters who lose will accept whatever to prove it was a fluke instead of whining.

                Lennox Lewis did it.
                Choco did it. Though he failed
                Tarver did it.
                Marquez did it.
                Humberto Soto did it.
                Hell, MF'n Kneeguel Cotto did it.

                I will keep asking: why is Manny not held to the same high standard?



                The Floyd fight was all about money. Manny didn't legit believe he'd win that fight. But he was scared there too, scared of getting nailed with a right hand counter that put him to sleep again. His mistake is, even if he'd flailed into a flush right from Floyd, it wouldn't have dropped him. That's why he wanted the rematch.

                No, he felt Horn's power and wanted nothing more to do with it.
                Who said that Manny Pacquiao was a real fighter?

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                • Mike_R
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                  #118
                  Absolutely not spending any money on that.

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                  • WholeSoul75
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                    #119
                    The Floyd fight was all about money. Manny didn't legit believe he'd win that fight. But he was scared there too, scared of getting nailed with a right hand counter that put him to sleep again. His mistake is, even if he'd flailed into a flush right from Floyd, it wouldn't have dropped him. That's why he wanted the rematch.

                    No, he felt Horn's power and wanted nothing more to do with it.
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                    Pac never wanted the fight for fans just money.
                    Manny scared of going to sleep so then he wanted to rematch jmm.
                    Manny didnt believe he would win and but ends up feeling like he hurt him and won.
                    Haha mannys all over the place.

                    After seeing horns/austrailla bull**** i would want nothing more to do with it. Pacs fight to the top is way different from horns.
                    Last edited by WholeSoul75; 02-07-2018, 03:12 PM.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Bluebird
                      Pac is 39 and shouldn’t be fighting anymore. His next fight whoever his opponent is should be his farewell fight.
                      Same exact sentence was said all over NSB leading up to Jeff "The Hornet" Horn.

                      We saw what happened.

                      Bottom line is, it was a robbery or it wasn't. If it was, Manny shouldn't have had a problem rematching The Hornet WHEREVER, so he could score a knockout such that the location wouldn't mean a damn thing. Instead, he ducked the rematch. Why? Because he's afraid of that man who tossed him all over the ring like a B.

                      And I don't blame him; Horn is ROUGH. More than Maidana and I didn't think that was possible.

                      Originally posted by WholeSoul75
                      Pac never wanted the fight for fans just money.
                      The dude went into a fight having falsified a form saying he wasn't injured when he knew he was. That's fraud - and he knew what he was doing. He wanted the payday, that's why he didn't bother showing up but two rounds of the fight.

                      Originally posted by WholeSoul75
                      Manny scared of going to sleep so then he wanted to rematch jmm.
                      The claim that he wanted to rematch Marquez was so he could ask for more drug testing. Marquez is WAY too smart for that crap. LOL

                      Originally posted by WholeSoul75
                      Manny didnt believe he would win and but ends up feeling like he hurt him and won.
                      He "said" he thought he hurt him, he thought he won, etc. Max Kellerman disagreed. Teddy Atlas disagreed. Hell, all of HBO, ESPN and Showtime disagreed with Manny. Manny's OWN MF'n TRAINER disagreed with him.

                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Who said that Manny Pacquiao was a real fighter?
                      He is...when the guy stands in front of him and lets him tee off (Algieri), or makes silly mistakes (Bradley).

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