Its time to talk to the elephant in the room!?!?!!

[boliodogs]

My thoughts are he easily beat and KOed an African boxer who was not very good and not a worthy challenger. He is the WBC champion and he beat the number 4 WBC challenger so he did his job as champion. The WBC shouldn't have ranked the African. Bocrec ranks him number 127 at 168 and the WBA, IBF and WBO do not rank him at all in their top 15 at 168. I don't believe the African would give any of the top 168 pound boxers any more trouble than he gave Ramirez. He was a weak challenger who should not have been fighting for a world title. Ramirez did beat a very good challenger in Hart. That was a good win for him.

[Cheek busting]

I mean, we don't now yet..

He could be great, he could be mediocre.

Until he fights a true world class boxer, who is prime and a live body, we just don't know.

He really needs to step up and get a fight. DeGale is available, ain't he? That should be a good starting point - a dude coming off a loss to Caleb Truax lol..

Let's see how he looks against DeGale, and then we can go from there.

[Cutthroat]

I heard Zurdo and Benavides were sparring partners at one point, probably helped hone each other's skills. Zurdo's competition has been soft but he has improved a lot over the years.

[R_Walken]

I like Zurdo think he's legit , but don't think he's done nearly enough to be mentioned in the top 3 yet

Haven't watched the fight tonight

But his opposition level has been absolute sh.it

He needs to step it up against a live opponent

[Mammoth]

Ok, Ramirez beat Vlasov, AA, Porky Medina and Jessie Hart. Those aren't bad wins at all but I'm not close to being sold on him yet.

[TheUntouchable]

I totally agree brother! I think GGG has some of the best footwork boxing. But to think that gggs footwork is far superior to ramirez is ridiculous. I do beleive ggg has the better upper body range tho but ramirez does work on imporovement.

Ramirez is a little overrated, I guess. He outboxed Abraham but let's be honest, Abraham was old and never knew how to close distance. When Abraham gets hit a few times he ticks his gloves to his head and waits it out. He did the same thing against Eubank.

Other than that Ramirez really hasn't done anything. He outworked Jesse Hart without looking impressive and fought 2 boring mismatches against Bursak and Ahmed.

In all of those fights he showed us his weaknesses and I don't see him improving much.

I'm gonna say it right now, Gilberto Ramirez seems to be like a bigger southpaw version of Antonio Margarito.


He can make some money with his belt because he'll always have fans, he's Mexican, but when it comes to fighting the best, he won't make it that far.

[Madison Boxing]

Who's he beat?

[Citizen Koba]

Zurdo Ramirez! Hes definitely a student of the game. Sure his resume may look week but his last 2 opponents wouldve gave anyone at 168 problems.

Thoughts?

MY thoughts? I think the phrase is to 'talk about the elephant in the room'. It's a metaphor, see? There isn't an actual elephant to talk to, even if one was inclined to do so.

[sweeterscience]

he sons your pbc boy Benevidez easy. Lets see if Benevidez even gets by gavril...

I may eat my words, but I have been amazed that everyone is looking past Gavril and giving Benevidez the victory without a second thought. My opinion of Gavril went way up after the first fight. If he can use that sneaky power and drop Benevidez early instead of late this time, I think it changes the whole complexion of the fight.

[LacedUp]

habib ahmed was ranked 126th