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  • redmish
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    #11
    Two really good fights the last 2 Saturday's and I can't wait for the final. What a chin dorticos has, he just couldn't take anymore. Genuine 50-50 to decide the best CW in the world and top 3 P4P.

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    • chrisJS
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      #12
      Originally posted by sweeterscience
      I'm not sure I'd have both in my top 10 p4p, but I wouldn't say that's too far off or I would have them too far off the list. The main thing holding me back would be the sample size against top fighters, for both Gassiev and Usyk. Though, in fairness, you could make a similiar argument about Loma or Crawford.

      You're definitely right that it's the best fight that can be made this year. Though I would really love to see Francisco Vargas vs. Alberto Machado too. Mexico vs. Puerto Rico rivalry, both big hitters who can be hurt.
      I think both have a stronger case than Spence on resume.

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      • SkillspayBills
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        #13
        This is a fight for ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the marbles baby. It's boxing at it's very Apex. Winner is definitely fighter of the year.

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        • sweeterscience
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          #14
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          I think both have a stronger case than Spence on resume.
          My first instinct was to disagree, but I think I am prone to give Spence too much credit based on my opinion of his potential to win matchups against Porter, Thurman and Crawford. That said, you're probably right.

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          • ShamrockXpress
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            #15
            I think all 4 fighters from the last two weekends have the combination of power, speed and skill that they could make noise up at heavyweight aswell. We've already seen it with breidis stopping charr early on in his career.

            A guy who I helped with his S&C work once said to me heavyweights aren't real boxers, because they don't suffer through dieting and weight cuts etc. I took offense to this as I would qualify as a heavyweight but seeing how lackluster that division is compared to this, I'm starting to believe him.

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            • Commie
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              #16
              Kind of agree with the "heavies aren't real boxers"
              At least these days
              Ali, Patterson, Frazier, Young Tyson them all would be considered cruiserweights by todays means

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              • Shrap
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                #17
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                I dunno. Gassiev has terrific conditioning but he doesnt let his hands go enough. It took him till the 11th round to unleash a combination of more than 3 punches, even though Dorticos was open to it since about the 7th or 8th.

                Plus, he is too mechanical, so unless Usyk shows the type of form he did against Glow, we'll end up with a mechanical, one-two back and forth, like we just got tonight.
                What? Usyk is anything but mechanical, and throws large combinations. It will be nothing like tonight.

                It's going to be interesting seeing how Gassiev deals with Usyk's speed and skill.

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                • Big Ukrainian
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                  #18
                  To beat Gassiev Usyk should get back to the style he used to have when he was working with James Ali Bashir and (in amateurs and WSB) Anatoly Lomachenko - move more, use his jab more, keep the distance. If he will be as aggressive as he was in his last 3 fights, he will have tons of problems with Gassiev.

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                  • Strategic1
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                    #19
                    This is gonna be better than Canelo-GGG 2...

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                    • sicko
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                      #20
                      Usky by UD! He will be too quick for Gassiev but Gassiev continues to improve, still only 24 years old so he is not a finished product so he could easily show up to the Finals a even better fighter than we seen this fight

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