Is Alexander Povetkin vs Anthony Joshua a gruesome / disgusting mismatch?
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Povetkin has looked at times completely brilliant and others completely shot in recent years. Some say it's PED use... I withhold judgement/and opinion on that matter. He has just looked really inconsistent.
Personally I would rather Povetkin face Pulev and the winner of that fight get Joshua. That would tell us a lot more about where both guys are.
If Povetkin blasts out David Price and gets the Joshua fight in the summer.... who fuckin' knows?
I really don't wish to see Alexander Povetkin's corpse laid in the ring and be decapitated into multiple pieces. It'd be a sight of absolute horror, gruesomeness, goriness and disgust. Especially before Fifa world cup football 2018 takes place in Russia and a Russian getting BRUTALLY murdered by a British. It'd put Russians into more shame and embarrassment!
It feels like a mismatch of the highest order. Alexander Povetkin is physically too weak and small to belong in the same ring as a monster and giant like Anthony Joshua.
Oleksandr Usyk stands a better chance at beating Anthony Joshua because even if he is much smaller in size, he can at least make up for it with his skills because he is MUCH more skilled than Alexander Povetkin by a SIGNIFICANT and an ASTRONOMICAL margin.
Mini, pudgy, chubby, unathletic and overweight fake heavyweight that happens to be a blown up cruiser weight / light heavyweight with such low skills in Alexander Povetkin does not deserved to be in the same ring as a giant / monster like Anthony Joshua.Comment
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"Why are you talking about Parker in an Alexander Povetkin vs Anthony Joshua thread? "
Because it shuts down any form of boxing talk you try and discuss bc it is showing smaller Povetkin still poses more danger than Parker does . Wheather you pretend my numbers which ive posted on Parker or opinions dont hold weight is no concern of mine , i assure you i wont lose sleep over it !
If you cant see without numbers than your lost anyway .
The Parker argument shuts it down bc your whole center of attention is size and knock outs which than DISQUALIFIES all the other fighters who are not favored anymore than Povetkin would be .
But you know that already otherwise you wouldn't be on this forum other than to troll bc you are basically just making threads of " Should Joshua be barred from boxing since hes favored over everyone " !
And you know Povetkin is a top 5 fighter yet you claim he shouldn't even be at HW ,a division you NEED punching power more than the other divisions ! Why are you even commenting on a fighter you deem overrated hype job and puncher if you feel hes too much for everyone ?
Why are you even watching the HW weight class if its so weak that guys like Povetkin are to small and Joshua needs all these steroids to defeat such a weak era ? HaHa Your literally on other threads calling some reverse b.s about Klitchko chin proving Joshua cant punch bc he was defeated in 2003 ?????
Since Povetkin like OTHERS will be a huge under dog , instead of disguising your real intention and thats just to troll anyway in general and are finding a not so clever way to discredit Joshua ....
You got to be around 18 or so bc no adult could possibly put this much effort to discredit themselves with bizarro world logic and words that screams "I m on drugs but dont mind me " .....lol
"Let us know when Anthony Joshua, despite his big and muscular body can actually CRACK AN EGG and actually KO his opponents cleanly and concussively without needing BS PREMATURE ' TYPICAL BRITISH STOPPAGES'. Until then, his big muscles are good for nothing or for very little "
Finishes guys with far less punches .
Defeated what will be 6 undefeated fighters .
Yet defeats Molina in 3 rnds (though you praise Wilder s power )
And Jason Gavern who fought BOTH said Joshua hits harder than Wilder .
These are ACTUAL in ring comparisons !
Mr . Smart Guy ! ........ so i'll just end it there .
As I've already stated, Joseph Parker is an inexperienced heavyweight. Just like Daniel Dubois is. So both fighting Joshua will be a mismatch based on lacking experience, not lacking size.
On the other hand, Alexander Povetkin fighting Anthony Joshua is an ASTRONOMICAL mismatch. Not because Povetkin lacks skills or experience (he doesn't). But because he lacks size, physical strength and punching power (3 attributes which are most important and significant in today's heavyweight division). Alexander Povetkin might be more skilled pound for pound than Joshua, but it still is a mismatch because of how laughably outmatched he is in terms of size.
What do you think would happen if Joseph Parker possesses Povetkin's skills whilst maintaining his current size and he fought Joshua with such skills and size? Joseph Parker may very well be able to defeat Anthony Joshua (because Joseph Parker is a REAL / NATURAL heavyweight). On the other hand, Povetkin with a skill advantage still can't defeat Joshua because the guy is a FAKE heavyweight who happens to be a blown up light heavyweight with 20 / 30 pounds of additional body fat and has tiny little hands, fists and body to even be competitive against REAL heavyweights like Joshua, Wilder or Fury.
I didn't claim I can't see without numbers. Instead, I claimed you didn't provide any stats because you provided no numbers and stats require numbers.
A 30 - 35 year old Joseph Parker would pose FAR GREATER THREAT / DANGER to Anthony Joshua than any version of Alexander Povetkin would. Not now because Parker is currently still too inexperienced.
I never claimed Joshua should be barred from boxing against everyone. Rather, only against midgets and FAKE non-heavyweights / blown up light heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin who doesn't even belong to share the same ring with a REAL modern heavyweight like Anthony Joshua. It is an ASTRONOMICAL mismatch! Joshua should be fined for manslaughter for even considering someone as tiny as Povetkin as a potential opponent.
Instead, Joshua should ONLY be looking to fight against REAL heavyweights like Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury, Joseph Parker (but a more experienced version), Hughie Fury, Jarrell Miller, an experienced Daniel Dubois, Luis Ortiz and etc.
At no point did I ever claim the current heavyweight division was 'weak' or 'poor'. That's a strawman you committed. You may have reading comprehension problems!
Me claiming Povetkin shouldn't be fighting in the heavyweight division because he is a weak / fake heavyweight does not mean I'm implying the heavyweight division is overall weak. Rather, I'm trying to condemn mismatches between blown up light heavyweights and REAL heavyweights whilst condoning fights between two REAL heavyweights.
Watch Alexander Povetkin vs Wladimir Klitschko and then come back and tell me if you thought that fight wasn't a mismatch and that both guys even belonged in the same ring with each other? Or that they even belonged in the same weight division? So why should this tiny little midget in Povetkin even belong in the same ring against someone like Joshua or Wilder?
Put Wilder in the ring against Joshua and then we will get to see a REAL heavyweight fight between two REAL heavyweights. Not between a FAKE heavyweight versus a REAL heavyweight.
Wladimir Klitshko vs Anthony Joshua was a REAL heavyweight bout between two REAL heavyweights. Alexander Povetkin vs Wladimir Klitschko wasn't. Nor would Povetkin vs Joshua be either!
Povetkin will not be an underdog against Joshua. Povetkin literally has 0% chance of beating Joshua and is literally being prepared to be stepped on like a bug.
That isn't the case with REAL heavyweights like Luis Ortiz who might be an underdog against Joshua, but has a chance of beating Joshua unlike Povetkin who possesses 0% chance of winning against Joshua.
And of course I'm going to discredit Joshua for fighting FAKE heavyweights like Povetkin or Takam who he can just step on like as if they were bugs that couldn't even tickle him with their best punches. However, I'll start giving him credit ONLY when he starts fighting REAL heavyweights like Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury.
I also don't understand why you Anthony Joshua fan boys are so sensitive and defensive.
Joshua is expected to finish off opponents that are already damaged by Deontay Wilder and his leftovers quicker. Just like how Wilder is also expected to finish off Joshua's leftovers quicker since they will be already damaged from the beating they'd take from Joshua initially. Which means Joshua finishing Molina is nothing to be too impressed by since he was already damaged goods after he was beaten to a pulp by Wilder. And Wilder actually knocked Molina down to the canvas and had him down helpless whilst Joshua needed a typical standing stoppage waved off by the referee prematurely as usual.
Murat Gassiev who sparred both Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder said Wilder is the harder puncher. So what's your point?
Wilder has knocked opponents out unconscious. Many of them in fact. Why hasn't Joshua done so with bigger muscles and a more muscular body? Maybe because Joshua's punching power isn't as good as you seem to think it is?Comment
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I'm uncertain at which point(s) you were shooting for ironic hyperbole, but I would be surprised if you actually think Usyk has a better shot despite never being tested against heavyweight firepower and having such a short--however impressive--pro curriculum vitae. It's way too early for those projections. At least, if you meant that sincerely, it takes some of the edge off your (possibly ironic?) shots at Russians.Comment
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and it even wasnt broken lmao. UK commentators just bad as UK refsComment
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pedvetkin isnt all that, but certainly he deserves to be a contender after proving himself against Huck years ago but not much else besides.
Trouble is, was that Pedvetkin or povetkin? we will never know.Comment
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