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  • #61
    Of course these blokes are gonna dismiss ANYTHING Wilder does - its in their nature! Even if he beats Joshua convincingly they'll have their ready-made excuse/s built right in: "Joshua came in too heavy/light"...."Joshua had serious personal issues at the time of the fight"...."a voo doo dr placed a curse on Joshua - I saw the doll"......"Wilder cheated"...."Joshua should have never had sex before the match - I know the girl"....."never should Joshua have eaten those burritos before the match"......"Wilder was on PEDS"....."Joshua overtrained"......."Joshua took a dive for the rematch"......."during training Joshua bit into a mango seed"............Lets face it, Wilder CAN'T be a winner in their eyes! So as far as Wilder turning out to possibly be the better man or even giving an objective compliment/opinion on the guy?? These blokes assertions don't count.....not in the slightest.....

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      You didn't answer the question! What was Wlad's career-defining win? When you think of the era: Roy Jones Jr., Oscar, Tito Trinidad, B-Hop, Mayweather, Cotto, and Pacquiao, you think of BIG fights! When I think of Wlad, I just know he was undefeated for a long time, but who the **** did he beat?
      I don't know who you're trying to troll with this bs comparison, but you're making a fool out of yourself.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by NickyB View Post
        Wilder is right. Because it's his fault that Luis Ortiz failed so many drug test over the years and now that he's finally cleaned up and could finally fight he's older that's all Wilders fault. Sorry but don't you remember Wilder paid Stiverne so he could fight Ortiz earlier. And like normal protocol except for ortiz because he forgot to list his medication he failed again. Also Wilders fault. The point I am making is the boxing world hasn't been fair to Wilder. You have been able to fight these guys because of their problem taking banned substances. If nobody ever failed a test against Wilder there be no doubt he would be number one on most peoples charts. He didn't duck anybody. He fought his mandatorys and even tried to buy off a mandatory to give people the fight they want sorry for the failed testing.
        Well said!..... If these blokes find such great pleasure in discrediting, then we should point out that Wilder has 9 more "nobodies" on his resume' than Joshua does......Advantage? Wilder!

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        • #64
          Lol, for Joshua... he is just not that great.... he is in far better shape and has more skills than Wilder, but he is still not fully developed as a boxer.

          As for Wilder, I give him a ton of credit if he actually fights Ortiz, it would be his biggest win.

          Otherwise, Wilder had plenty of opportunities to fight good top 10 guys like Takam, Charr, Ustinov, Pulev, Whyte, Wach.... all of them would be better than the trash he fought.

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          • #65
            Takam ruiz ugonoh miller haye whyte parker hughie ... lets not mention wlad when he was still in peak and wilder already had 30+ fughts. Many guys you couldve fougt and ducked thats why you get no credit DUMMY. AJ fought guys like those and wlad in his first 20 pro fights. Your first 4 defenses were against jokes. Washigton not so bad and in fact you looked like a deer in the headlight before the ko.... the same kind of ko luis too experienced to leave himself open to. If you beat ortiz ill give you all the credit tho dw ... dont think peds make or break him and dont think he older than the listed age like some thumpheads seem to think. But boy oh boy ... you already looking past him. I think we gon hear excuses from beyonce's fans, not her haters.

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            • #66
              Of course there would be excuses, this is boxing after all.

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              • #67
                "Just you watch, when I beat this senior citizen no-one will give me any credit!"

                Wilder fans should use the Joshua fans 'logic' -

                Template 1: "Ortiz was the best version of himself - yeah he was old but he really, REALLY wanted the win and was like, super committed and stuff. Therefore Wilder beat the best King Kong Ortiz to ever step in the ring and should be p4p#1"

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                • #68
                  We’re not talking Klitschko folks, you guys better keep you eyes on Ortiz. He may wind up fighting Joshua. I believe Wilder beats Joshua , Ortiz beats Wilder, Joshua beats Ortiz. Styles makes fights.

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                  • #69
                    I like Wilder but hes always whining with this chip on his shoulder mentality. Beat these guys and the admiration will come, that being said good or bad comments shouldnt matter - focus on you.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                      I don't know who you're trying to troll with this bs comparison, but you're making a fool out of yourself.
                      This is not about trolling, it is what it is! Wilder is fighting an old Luis Ortiz, and if he wins, no one will give him any credit. On the flip side, everyone went crazy when AJ beat an older, and less active (518 day lay-off) Wlad K, who was coming off a loss! On top of that, people ask "who did Ortiz beat?" So I am asking the same question of Wlad K! I notice you responded, and couldn't come up with any names either, which further proves my point!

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