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  • #11
    Or the world’s weakest chin! ��

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    • #12
      Originally posted by paulf View Post
      Yeah no.

      Kiram had all the tools to win the fight, but he was fighting Lucas Matthyse. From outside the ring the path to victory might look easy, but we're not the one getting punched by Lucas ****in Matthyse.
      Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post
      lmao
      Originally posted by The Smash View Post
      I think he dived.
      Originally posted by E-Thug View Post
      Delayed reaction KO from a stiff jab
      Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
      No. He QUIT, which is different.
      I put up a better slo mo video that shows the first KD and the KO

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      • #13
        I don't think he took a dive. More likely that in a fight where very few good shots were landing, he got caught a couple sharp shots he wasn't expecting, maybe he doesn't have a good chin and there you have it.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          I put up a better slo mo video that shows the first KD and the KO
          I watched the fight live in HD with plenty of slow mo repetition in it.

          The "jab" was actually a very strong jab or a straight left hand to a man coming to it.

          The thai could have woke up but he quit.

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          • #15
            Looks like he's just worn down to nothing and collapsed.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              I put up a better slo mo video that shows the first KD and the KO
              There was slo mo in the replay on TV.

              If he was taking a dive in any way, shape, or form he would have stayed down the first time, or at least not done some Zab Judah jump up and immediately go back down shit.

              If he decided to stay down because he didn't want anymore that's one thing, but a dive? No fuckin way my dude.

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              • #17
                I don't think he took a dive. Fighters react and get hurt in different ways. Remember this guy has no a,at user background. I would like to know what was in the ointment that was confiscated between rounds.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by paulf View Post
                  There was slo mo in the replay on TV.

                  If he was taking a dive in any way, shape, or form he would have stayed down the first time, or at least not done some Zab Judah jump up and immediately go back down shit.

                  If he decided to stay down because he didn't want anymore that's one thing, but a dive? No fuckin way my dude.
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
                  I don't think he took a dive. Fighters react and get hurt in different ways. Remember this guy has no a,at user background. I would like to know what was in the ointment that was confiscated between rounds.
                  Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
                  I watched the fight live in HD with plenty of slow mo repetition in it.

                  The "jab" was actually a very strong jab or a straight left hand to a man coming to it.

                  The thai could have woke up but he quit.
                  In the new video I put up Roy, Max, and Lamps are calling it a dive.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                    In the new video I put up Roy, Max, and Lamps are calling it a dive.
                    I'm saying he quit. English is not my first language. What do you mean by dive? that he let himself go down un purpose?

                    Mm no I'm not sure. To me the second one was also a legit KD. It took some time tho. It was a very strong left hand.

                    Dive or not, Matthysse legitly won this fight. If the thai quit that's his problem. He was 4-3 up in the cards to me, so he was def trying to win.

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                    • #20
                      If you look at the 2nd Knockdown on the slo Mo video, it appears that he ‘flinches’ then drops when it looks like LM was about to throw a right hand.

                      The fact that it so offended RJJ’s and Max’s boxing sensibilities that even they couldn’t tow the company line is telling though.
                      Last edited by Sweet Jones; 01-28-2018, 12:42 AM.

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