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  • Elroy The Great
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    #51
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Is it possible that he has a better understanding of negotiation than you do? How many multi million dollar fights have you negotiated?

    You say we shouldn't compare, but if you don't understand his actions and he's an expert in the field and you aren't, isn't possible you are the idiot and that he knows what he's doing?

    Show me where I said that?
    how many am i supposed to have made to have an intelligent say in the matter

    a person whos spent a great part of his life in his field should know better than make a demand like that. ACTIVE fighters struggle to get 50-50.

    your actions say you feel hes above being an idiot, hence, he must be perfect.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Elroy The Great
      how many am i supposed to have made to have an intelligent say in the matter
      Depends on if your say is idiotic or not. In this situation, he's doing exactly what he should be doing. Which isn't surprising considering he's negotiated dozens if not hundreds of multi million dollar fights. So when you believe he's being an idiot, the truth is that you know absolutely nothing about negotiating big deals and you in fact are the idiot here.

      Hearn wasn't an idiot when he demanded 80/20 for Joshua vs. Parker. Just as Higgins wasn't an idiot when he demanded 50/50. This is how negotiating works.

      So maybe, just maybe, the next time one of the most successful negotiators in the history of boxing utilizes basic negotiating tactics, and you find them confusing or hard to understand, instead of assuming he's an idiot, have enough self awareness to realize that maybe he's an expert at something you know nothing about and therefore you may not understand his actions.

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        #53
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        Depends on if your say is idiotic or not. In this situation, he's doing exactly what he should be doing. Which isn't surprising considering he's negotiated dozens if not hundreds of multi million dollar fights. So when you believe he's being an idiot, the truth is that you know absolutely nothing about negotiating big deals and you in fact are the idiot here.

        Hearn wasn't an idiot when he demanded 80/20 for Joshua vs. Parker. Just as Higgins wasn't an idiot when he demanded 50/50. This is how negotiating works.

        So maybe, just maybe, the next time one of the most successful negotiators in the history of boxing utilizes basic negotiating tactics, and you find them confusing or hard to understand, instead of assuming he's an idiot, have enough self awareness to realize that maybe he's an expert at something you know nothing about and therefore you may not understand his actions.
        ok, so you do think frank is perfect

        or is a very close relative

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          #54
          Originally posted by Elroy The Great
          ok, so you do think frank is perfect

          or is a very close relative
          Not at all. It's just very clear that you know absolutely nothing about negotiating.

          “The wise man is one who knows what he does not know.”

          Unfortunately for you, it appears you do not possess the intelligence to realize that when an expert at something you know nothing about does something you don't understand, that instead of assuming they are an idiot, you should assume they know more than you do.

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            #55
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            Not at all. It's just very clear that you know absolutely nothing about negotiating.

            “The wise man is one who knows what he does not know.”

            Unfortunately for you, it appears you do not possess the intelligence to realize that when an expert at something you know nothing about does something you don't understand, that instead of assuming they are an idiot, you should assume they know more than you do.
            so he can be an idiot.

            cause thats what he is at this moment

            #FnckAProverb

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              #56
              Originally posted by Elroy The Great
              so he can be an idiot
              It's possible. But in this situation, we know absolutely for sure that you're the idiot.

              Because Warren is doing something very reasonable. He's advocating for the fighter he promotes. It's his job to try to influence public perception and sing the praises of his fighter.

              Just because you and I both know AJ will get the lion's share doesn't mean that Warren should concede the point publicly this early. It's Warren's job to get the best split possible. He can't show any weakness right now. Whether Fury ultimately ends up with 35%, 45% or somewhere in between, it's Warren's job to fight for every percentage point he can.

              So it would be absolutely idiotic for him to publicly lobby for anything less than 50/50 right now.

              But if you're not savvy enough to understand any of that, then sadly you're the idiot, not Warren.

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                #57
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                It's possible
                then were done.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Elroy The Great
                  then were done.
                  If we were done, why did you keep discussing?

                  Oh genius promoter boy, what percentage should Warren be publicly advocating for right now?

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                    #59
                    After years of doing nothing, course he does Frank.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      TYSON FURY deserves 50-50 split if he faces Anthony Joshua in a record breaking 100m mega fight. That is according to promoter Frank Warren, who is understood to be close to signing a multi-fight deal with the Gypsy King. Fury has not boxed since November 2015 but is close to a return after the suspension on his license was lifted by the British Boxing Board of Control this month.
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                      50 - 50 for a PED User yeah right.

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