Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: How Good is Luis Ortiz Without The PEDs?

[davidw9785]

It is a legit question to ask, we have seen that Pedvtekin hasn't been that effective since his "heart pills" were taking away from him. If Ortiz is strictly clean would he too be effective like he use to?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. There was an article on here the other week about his ex-coach saying that Povetkin lost his pop after getting popped for PEDs. Seems like the PEDs make a difference...

Good call on Wilder's part to pay extra for the stricter testing

[The D3vil]

If VADA can't catch weed in Wilders system than it seems to me some boxers are given a pass to cheat I think Wilder is on the Juice. The guy use to look like a Somali Refugee at one point

Wilder went from an concentration camp inmate to a Captain America bodytype within 4 years
It's only weed doe
All naychurul doe

1. There's no proof that Wilder smokes weed. Just because he had weed in his car, doesn't mean he was the one smoking it. Most folks I know either smoked or did smoke at one time. It's like beer in the hood.

If he has homies or brothers or cousins, any of them could've been the ones who left it in his car.

2. Wilder is still built like a basketball player. Dude weighed in at 220 lbs against Stiverne, which is less than Mike Tyson used to come in at even though he's 6'7" & Tyson was 5'11"

Like 220 would make him an average NBA Small Forward.

Meanwhile Anthony Joshua is shorter and built like "The Hulk" and moving up the scale towards 260 and dudes are like, "Naw, he just built like that".

[Commie]

4 YEARS is too short a period to put on muscle!?? Are you freakin serious my dog

I ain't your dog. Ask any pro athlete/ trainer/ doc or physician
They will tell you something
The only source that says muscle growth is just a matter of training time and protein- is protein commercial

[Commie]

What does the way Paulie looks have to do with Luis Ortiz being on steroids?

His whole looks tells you he's been abusing the juice for a Long Time, ret@rd !

"Everybody takes stee-o-roeedzz in order to stayyy competeteeve"
A. Schwarzenegger

[Slickster44]

Ortiz is 40 something looking flabby and sick

[Commie]

His whole looks tells you he's been abusing the juice for a Long Time, ret@rd !

"Everybody takes stee-o-roeedzz in order to stayyy competeteeve"
A. Schwarzenegger

And if you have just for your entire career- you just don't call other Fighters PED cheats
Get it ????

[parrish duke]

Who cares if Wilder smokes weed...who cares if Kovalev drinks vodka while training... It's the PED's you have to worry about, I was not a Wilder fan, but to have 1 punch KO power while year long testing is a statement!! Weed is counter productive to training, I can see it being used for pain, but for anyone to defend Ortiz because Malignaggi made the statement is ridiculous. Paulie is brutally honest and gives boxing fans a good insite into the sport . Ortiz has not been nearly as effective nor as quick as he once was since getting caught in the Kayode fight!! Kayode was a cruiser weight moving up in that fight...why use PED's for that particular opponent?? Things that make you go Hmm....

[RapidSon]

All credit for Ortiz..gone after this statement haha. If Ortiz beats Wilder without peds anyway that would be ****in hilarious.

[Bonduu]

paulie ur a good dude and ur analysis on showtime is good. but u have a tendency to accuse some ppl of PED's without any proof. an example of this is pacquiao. u went on a tear accusing him of juicing and u even once said along with Floyd, that pac had to be juicing because his head grew bigger. biased comments like this and others makes you less credible. even with Ortiz, u say he has been caught 2 or 3 times, when in reality he was positive once and the last time, it has already been confirmed that it was NOT PED's, it was HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE medications. but somehow, u are counting this as 2 or 3 times he was caught. so even when u are being factual, u exaggerate the truth, revealing your ability to be biased. I always felt like if u were man enough to make false claims about pacquiao(who i don't even care for, by the way, being a hypocritical, fake ass catholic- holier- than- thou, philandering, drinking, ********, lying, death squad supporting, cement bucket head mofo)then you should have been man enough to make a fight with manny through strict VADA protocols, and show us all how manny is not all that, by fighting and beating him. and I felt like if u weren't willing to do that, you shouldn't accuse that man of doping just because his head is slightly smaller than a carnival cruise ship. as much as I don't like manny, he would put your **** in the dirt under any circumstances, drug testing or not. that's my piece

Wow...someone seems very happy!

[HardcoreboxingG]

If he is now still allowed to take the high blood medication wasn’t said whats in it is use for a masking agent so if so he can still be doping now and his blood pressure medicine will mask it. That’s like giving him a license to dope!