Comments Thread For: Josh Taylor: I Think Humberto Soto is Tougher Fight Than Vazquez

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12th pro fight, instead of fighting bums he fights former world champ real tough Mexicans. It takes balls and talent to do that in your 12th pro fight. Future world champ!

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Benny Lynch, Ken Buchanan, Walter McGowan, Jackie Paterson, etc. Buchanan and Lynch are in the top ten of the greatest fighters Britian has ever produced. Lynch is top 5 all time at his weight. Ken is one of boxing most lauded technicians, and has an amazing away win against Ismael Laguna which was fought outdoors at high altitude in tropical heat. Ken is considered one of lightweights finest boxers. Both Lynch and Buchanan were as tough as nails on top of having brilliant ability. McGowan was also a master boxer of his time.

Thank you for taking the time to set that idiot straight. 👍

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Don’t waste your time on the ignorant people bro. Add Johnny Hill and Jim Watt to that list also.
Buchanan is easily top 5 british fighters of all time (post war anyway), waaay better than these overrated B level guys like Froch, Eubank, Bruno, AJ etc

Exactly, mate. And It's not just the records. Watching the likes of Buchanan and McGowan on film clearly shows how technically brilliant they were. Lynch had ridiculous natural talent, physical strength and power which is evident on film too. Another thing about the best Scottish boxers was their fighting spirit and how teak tough they were. You would think Froch was the only British boxer ever to possess heart and an Iron jaw the way fans without a clue about British boxing history go on about him. The guy got dropped hard by George Groves ffs. Ken Buchanan absorbed shots from Hands of Stone who got so frustrated by Kens skill, fighting spirit and iron jaw he resorted to punching him in the balls to take him out. Ken took the best shots and frustrated a future top tier ATG who who went up and put middleweights on their arse. Duran showed how much respect he has for Buchanan by what he said about him in his 'Best I fought' article. Lynch also fought huge punchers and was only stopped in his last fight when he was a physical mess due to struggles with alcoholism. And the only thing fragile about McGowan was his skin.

Good shout with Johnny Hill btw. Also Tancy Lee from Edinburgh who was the first man to beat the great Jimmy Wilde. I believe Wilde was suffering from flue though and proved as such winning the rematch.

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Thank you for taking the time to set that idiot straight. ��

No worries. I've seen that posters anti- Scots agenda on other threads. The guy obviously has no clue about the history of not just Scottish boxing but British boxing history in general. I imagine he probably thinks Welsh boxing is the the same having zero clue about the achievements of Jimmy Wilde, Jim Driscoll, Freddie Welsh and the technical ability of Howard Winstone. Most historians have 6 great Celtic boxers in their top ten greatest ever British boxers. That's Jimmy Wilde, Jim Driscoll, Benny Lynch, Freddie Welsh, ken Buchanan and Joe Calzaghe.

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Exactly, mate. And It's not just the records. Watching the likes of Buchanan and McGowan on film clearly shows how technically brilliant they were. Lynch had ridiculous natural talent, physical strength and power which is evident on film too. Another thing about the best Scottish boxers was their fighting spirit and how teak tough they were. You would think Froch was the only British boxer ever to possess heart and an Iron jaw the way fans without a clue about British boxing history go on about him. The guy got dropped hard by George Groves ffs. Ken Buchanan absorbed shots from Hands of Stone who got so frustrated by Kens skill, fighting spirit and iron jaw he resorted to punching him in the balls to take him out. Ken took the best shots and frustrated a future top tier ATG who who went up and put middleweights on their arse. Duran showed how much respect he has for Buchanan by what he said about him in his 'Best I fought' article. Lynch also fought huge punchers and was only stopped in his last fight when he was a physical mess due to struggles with alcoholism. And the only thing fragile about McGowan was his skin.

Good shout with Johnny Hill btw. Also Tancy Lee from Edinburgh who was the first man to beat the great Jimmy Wilde. I believe Wilde was suffering from flue though and proved as such winning the rematch.

Completely agree bro, If I’m honest I’ve read a lot more about the likes of Hill, McGowan and Lynch than I’ve seen on film. I’ve see a few clips of Lynch against guys like Montana and Kane. Never read all that much on Tancy Lee I know he had a big impact Johnny Hill’s career though and trained or mentored him. He was another fighter who was badly crippled with alcoholism and that ultimately led to his demise.

Your spot on about Ken, unlike many of these modern day british “greats” he proved he belonged at the elite level. Although the likes of Laguna, and especially Carlos Ortiz were near the end of their careers, they are still ATG fighters and the first win over Laguna is up there with Stracey over Napoles, Honeyghan over Curry, Turpin over SRR as one of greatest British wins ever.
As for the Duran fight, Duran fought extremely dirty that night. Headbutts, LOW BLOWS!, punching after the bell the lot. I remember someone telling me years ago about that fight saying “Duran landed on those tartan shorts, more than he landed on Buchanan’s head. Although Buchanan was dropped early and was probably never really winning the fight, he was competitive throughout. I agree he was frustrating Duran and had it not been for that BS stoppage he probably would’ve lasted the distance against one of the genuine top 10 all time fighters IMO. It really p*sses me off how these nonsensical yes men at Sky try and rewrite boxing history and say ludicrous things like Ricky Burns is Scotland’s greatest ever fighter😂😂 I mean I like Ricky but Ken would’ve played with him. Ken doesn’t get anywhere near as much credit from British boxing fans IMO it’s kind of like people forget how good he was.I was really happy to see him ringside for Taylor’s latest fight up in Edinburgh, he looked well considering all the issues out of the ring he’s had, he’s one of the true British boxing legends.

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Completely agree bro, If I’m honest I’ve read a lot more about the likes of Hill, McGowan and Lynch than I’ve seen on film. I’ve see a few clips of Lynch against guys like Montana and Kane. Never read all that much on Tancy Lee I know he had a big impact Johnny Hill’s career though and trained or mentored him. He was another fighter who was badly crippled with alcoholism and that ultimately led to his demise.

Your spot on about Ken, unlike many of these modern day british “greats” he proved he belonged at the elite level. Although the likes of Laguna, and especially Carlos Ortiz were near the end of their careers, they are still ATG fighters and the first win over Laguna is up there with Stracey over Napoles, Honeyghan over Curry, Turpin over SRR as one of greatest British wins ever.
As for the Duran fight, Duran fought extremely dirty that night. Headbutts, LOW BLOWS!, punching after the bell the lot. I remember someone telling me years ago about that fight saying “Duran landed on those tartan shorts, more than he landed on Buchanan’s head. Although Buchanan was dropped early and was probably never really winning the fight, he was competitive throughout. I agree he was frustrating Duran and had it not been for that BS stoppage he probably would’ve lasted the distance against one of the genuine top 10 all time fighters IMO. It really p*sses me off how these nonsensical yes men at Sky try and rewrite boxing history and say ludicrous things like Ricky Burns is Scotland’s greatest ever fighter���� I mean I like Ricky but Ken would’ve played with him. Ken doesn’t get anywhere near as much credit from British boxing fans IMO it’s kind of like people forget how good he was.I was really happy to see him ringside for Taylor’s latest fight up in Edinburgh, he looked well considering all the issues out of the ring he’s had, he’s one of the true British boxing legends.

Excellent post.

This is a link to Benny Lynch vs Jackie Brown II world title fight. A must watch.



Your correct in saying Laguna was at the end of his career vs Buchanan. Laguna wasn't shot but I don't think it was him at his best either. Laguna was like Buchanan in the fact he was a superb boxer with a titanium jaw. Carlos Ortiz was shot when Buchanan fought him. I'm not sure Buchanan could have beat him in his prime. Ortiz is one of the most underrated boxers in history. His record at lightweights arguably better than Duran's in terms of beating names.

Duran was definitely beating Buchanan wide up until the nut shot. It's the fact Buchanan was very compatative and actually coming on stronger in the round he was cheated that leads me to believe he would have made it to the cards. The fact that Buchanan's highlight reels show a lot of the skills he displayed against Duran just show how compatative he was in that fight.

Buchanan would have made Burns look silly and that isn't even up for debate. He's multiple levels better than him. He would have schooled ricky Hatton as well, even with the weight disadvantage. I remember when Mike Tyson fought in Scotland and he couldn't believe Buchanan was virtually unknown by his countrymen. He thought Ken B would be living in some mansion lol. Hopefully Buchanan gets that statue erected for him in Edinburgh soon. He deserves it.

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Excellent post.

This is a link to Benny Lynch vs Jackie Brown II world title fight. A must watch.



Your correct in saying Laguna was at the end of his career vs Buchanan. Laguna wasn't shot but I don't think it was him at his best either. Laguna was like Buchanan in the fact he was a superb boxer with a titanium jaw. Carlos Ortiz was shot when Buchanan fought him. I'm not sure Buchanan could have beat him in his prime. Ortiz is one of the most underrated boxers in history. His record at lightweights arguably better than Duran's in terms of beating names.

Duran was definitely beating Buchanan wide up until the nut shot. It's the fact Buchanan was very compatative and actually coming on stronger in the round he was cheated that leads me to believe he would have made it to the cards. The fact that Buchanan's highlight reels show a lot of the skills he displayed against Duran just show how compatative he was in that fight.

Buchanan would have made Burns look silly and that isn't even up for debate. He's multiple levels better than him. He would have schooled ricky Hatton as well, even with the weight disadvantage. I remember when Mike Tyson fought in Scotland and he couldn't believe Buchanan was virtually unknown by his countrymen. He thought Ken B would be living in some mansion lol. Hopefully Buchanan gets that statue erected for him in Edinburgh soon. He deserves it.

Nice one man, I’ll make sure to give that a watch.
Agreed about Ortiz as well, I’d personally rank him as the best Puerto Rican fighter ever. His resume is outstanding, Laguna, Ramos, Loi, Ellorde etc. Most of those guys he beat multiple times as well.
And Buchanan definitely deserves more recognition back in Scotland, a statue in his honour up in Edinburgh would be a nice tribute to a great career.

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No worries. I've seen that posters anti- Scots agenda on other threads. The guy obviously has no clue about the history of not just Scottish boxing but British boxing history in general. I imagine he probably thinks Welsh boxing is the the same having zero clue about the achievements of Jimmy Wilde, Jim Driscoll, Freddie Welsh and the technical ability of Howard Winstone. Most historians have 6 great Celtic boxers in their top ten greatest ever British boxers. That's Jimmy Wilde, Jim Driscoll, Benny Lynch, Freddie Welsh, ken Buchanan and Joe Calzaghe.

Remember Johnny Owens, I know he had nothing great, but his heart. He was all heart. The Methyr Matchstick.

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Nice one man, I’ll make sure to give that a watch.
Agreed about Ortiz as well, I’d personally rank him as the best Puerto Rican fighter ever. His resume is outstanding, Laguna, Ramos, Loi, Ellorde etc. Most of those guys he beat multiple times as well.
And Buchanan definitely deserves more recognition back in Scotland, a statue in his honour up in Edinburgh would be a nice tribute to a great career.

You know your boxing, buddy.

Cheers.

[DJ Enerate]

Remember Johnny Owens, I know he had nothing great, but his heart. He was all heart. The Methyr Matchstick.

Good shout. Johnny Owens is another Welsh boxing legend. That little British country punches way above its weight. Cheers.