What "evidence" is there Mayweather is on roids?

[Larry the boss]

[travestyny]

How many counter did Floyd land that fight?

How many hard clean punches did he catch Manny with?

Lets see if you can get 10 on either one?

Floyd waited till Pacquiao got knocked out and lost.

The oddsmakers showed Floyd the truth back in 2009 and Floyd ducked, and then went on a PED course for a couple of years

You're welcome

[D4thincarnation]

You're welcome

Not many in there. A lot missed, less than 10 were hard punches.

Pro boxing is judged on clean hard punching.

[travestyny]

Not many in there. A lot missed, less than 10 were hard punches.

Pro boxing is judged on clean hard punching.

Good job posting the video that even Spoon admit got shots wrong!

@ 9:15 - Oh, Oh, left hook to the body (author failed here it didn't land)

Give up. Your boy lost and made up an embarrassing excuse for losing

[D4thincarnation]

Good job posting the video that even Spoon admit got shots wrong!





Give up. Your boy lost and made up an embarrassing excuse for losing

Just think what a prime Pacquiao would do to Floyd.

Shame Floyd ducked and took PEDs


Any response about Floyd saying he wanted to take a year or two out of boxing.

[Robbie Barrett]

This poor Pac turd has been torn to pieces, he's just too ****** to realise it. A for effort though. Pac Turds are an endangered species.

[travestyny]

Just think what a prime Pacquiao would do to Floyd.

Shame Floyd ducked and took PEDs

He'd lose just like he did after ducking the fight in 2010. Stop crying.

Any response about Floyd saying he wanted to take a year or two out of boxing.

Was that after pacquiao ducked the fight in 2010, Arum had a negotiation with himself and a deadline for it when he was talking to no one, and Mayweather was waiting to see what was up with Roger's court case? Hmmm.


Give the **** up. Even PacRoach Max Kellerman believes your boy was a failure.


"No one really believes Pacquiao won that fight."



He's wrong. You believe it. Because you're a moron

[D4thincarnation]

He'd lose just like he did after ducking the fight in 2010. Stop crying.



Was that after pacquiao ducked the fight in 2010, Arum had a negotiation with himself and a deadline for it when he was talking to no one, and Mayweather was waiting to see what was up with Roger's court case? Hmmm.


Give the **** up. Even PacRoach Max Kellerman believes your boy was a failure.


"No one really believes Pacquiao won that fight."



He's wrong. You believe it. Because you're a moron

Floyd always had an excuse and gullible fanboys to believe him

[Quiksilva]

nice post, it's hilarious to hear people talk about "body transformation" about Manny, but never provide a side by side comparison like you just did with *Floyd

Your point is? I don't know why you bring up Manny when I was clearly talking about Floyd in a Floyd discussed debate.

Speaking of Manny, I assume he juiced as well during his peak when he had that firepower.

[GhostofDempsey]

You chose his opinion because it re-enforces your own bias. As far as red-flags (since there is no undeniable proof) for each are:

Pac:

• refused blood testing beyond 30 days prior to fight during first negotiations (later dropped to 7 days for rest of negotiations).
  Toradol request for Mayweather fight

Floyd:

• Abnormally low T-E in released tests (indicator of masking agent in use)
  Banned IV usage (TUE retroactively provided but banned as a masking agent)
  Fined $114,000 for refusing to answer questioning under oath from Pacquiao's lawyers.
  Documented Xylocane usage (approved by NSAC)

Now there's a lot of hearsay about them, much more noise against Pac. People also say Pac's speed/power stayed with him as he climbed weights is proof but Floyd maintained his speed and had enough power to keep everyone in check up to 154 even with brittle hands. Some people say Pac's head growth is proof, others say Floyd's head has grown as weel ( I say both filled out with age). SOme say Pac grew more, both started at same weight at same ages but Floyd got bigger, most noticeably, late in his career when he put on a lot more bulk and no longer did same day weigh ins.


Look at things logically and keeping your bias in check its really easy to see that there are red flags for both guys, however, one has more documented flags vs hearsay.

Floyd also had more stoppage wins after 140, so if we are using the knockouts coming up in weight as an indicator you can't rule that out.

This thread quickly turned into a Floyd fan circle jerk. What else is new? Lol.