What "evidence" is there Pacquaio is on roids?

[D4thincarnation]

So after you were proven wrong about the 18 day thing, you're still bringing this up?


Mayweather wanted full random testing up to the fight.

Pacquiao said no. He finally agreed to 30 days before the fight.

Mayweather said no. He then offered 14 days before the fight.

Pacquiao said no. He agreed to 24 days before the fight.

They went to arbitration over it. Pacquiao refused to move from 24 days. The fight was off.

Mayweather said there will be no cut-off for any fight with any boxer after that.

That's the whole damn story.



And why the hell are you still bringing up VADA? You do know that they use the same labs as USADA don't you? VADA doesn't catch anyone. The WADA labs do. This is idiotic.

Full Olympic style testing would be if Floyd signed up to the WADA program and had been tested for 9 months before competing.

Did Floyd do this?


VADA test catch people

[travestyny]

Full Olympic style testing would be if Floyd signed up to the WADA program and had been tested for 9 months before competing.

Did Floyd do this?


VADA test catch people

How many boxers have done year around testing? Is that the problem here? That it wasn't year round? Your point is irrelevant.


Again, VADA DOESN'T CATCH ANYONE. THE WADA LABS DO. THE SAME WADA LABS THAT USADA USES.

Am I wrong?

[D4thincarnation]

Oh really? How? Can you explain how this works?

Does it flush it out of his system? Come on...you can do better than this. Tell us exactly how this happens. Then you'll see the error of your ways

That is what roid users are doing and are recommending to other users to past tests.

Read there thread that might explain it to you.

I should imagine it works by diluting the urine so much you will only get trace results and the vits will be more prominent than the traces of PEDs


Any idea what medical reason for Floyd taking that IV?

[D4thincarnation]

How many boxers have done year around testing? Is that the problem here? That it wasn't year round? Your point is irrelevant.


Again, VADA DOESN'T CATCH ANYONE. THE WADA LABS DO. THE SAME WADA LABS THAT USADA USES.

Am I wrong?

Donaire, quite a few other in Germany as well

Labs are WADA accredited, and samples are sent there and they run the tests requested.

VADA seem to request better tests

What reason do you think VADA catch more cheats than USADA.

The same USADA that let all those American sprinter and Lance Armstrong cheat.

[Biolink]

It was never Ariza feeding it to him, Ariza’s got too many high profile partners to **** it over like that.

If someone was feeding Manny anything in that camp it was Justin Fortune because he got busted for Peds, and was in his camp in a strength&conditioninf capacity. Roach did not like that guy from what I remember.

Whatever because if there was something happening they are taking it with them to the grave; also who would care about what Fortune has to say after getting caught? Probably not many unless you hate Manny. Bleh

[AllBoxingAD]

Donaire, quite a few other in Germany as well

Labs are WADA accredited, and samples are sent there and they run the tests requested.

VADA seem to request better tests

What reason do you think VADA catch more cheats than USADA.

The same USADA that let all those American sprinter and Lance Armstrong cheat.

USADA catch people all the time in the UFC.

This VADA vs USADA stuff is complete crap.

[D4thincarnation]

USADA catch people all the time in the UFC.

This VADA vs USADA stuff is complete crap.

The amount of gear those freaks are they should.

Who was that guy who's test levels were 6 time above average

It is crazy on the one that are obviously using but don't get caught.


VADA is a much higher standard, designed for boxing.

USADA have destroyed sample, like what they did in the Winky Wright fight to make sure the fight continues.

[travestyny]

I should imagine it works by diluting the urine so much you will only get trace results and the vits will be more prominent than the traces of PEDs


Any idea what medical reason for Floyd taking that IV?

BINGO. BY DILUTION, RIGHT?


Do you realize that WADA urine samples are tested for...DILUTION?


It's called s specific gravity test, and no urine sample that falls below a certain level is accepted.

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The DCO is required to measure the sample’s specific gravity. If it does not meet certain requirements, you will be asked to provide another sample.
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...-2015-code.pdf

Mind you, the specific gravity of the urine sample is tested by the DCO AND by the Independent WADA Lab.

Congratulations, you just disproved the dilution theory


And yes, according to statements, he took the IV for dehydration. We clear now?

[travestyny]

Donaire, quite a few other in Germany as well

Labs are WADA accredited, and samples are sent there and they run the tests requested.

VADA seem to request better tests

What reason do you think VADA catch more cheats than USADA.

The same USADA that let all those American sprinter and Lance Armstrong cheat.

Again, what is your point about full year testing. We know about Donaire. Does that mean everyone is cheating besides Donaire and those boxers you mention in Germany?

Say what? VADA requests better tests? LMAO. That's foolish, dude. VADA isn't even recognized by WADA. Let me remind you...these are WADA LABS that do the testing. lol

VADA DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. THEY ARE AN INTERMEDIARY AND THAT'S ALL. THEY CONTRACT SAMPLE COLLECTION PEOPLE TO TAKE THE DAMN SAMPLES TO THE LABS. THAT'S ALL THEY DO!!!!

[D4thincarnation]

BINGO. BY DILUTION, RIGHT?


Do you realize that WADA urine samples are tested for...DILUTION?


It's called s specific gravity test, and no urine sample that falls below a certain level is accepted.




Mind you, the specific gravity of the urine sample is tested by the DCO AND by the Independent WADA Lab.

Congratulations, you just disproved the dilution theory


And yes, according to statements, he took the IV for dehydration. We clear now?

But he had an retroactive TUE so they allowed for it, hence the set up.

Doping control officer arrives.
Floyd claims to be ill and can't produce a sample.

Then they call a paramedic to give him an IV to mask the PED use, under the guise of a medical condition, and a emergency medical condition.

What was this medical condition again?

Dehydrated?

Seem strange for a guy that walks around at his fighting weight.

Let me know if you come up with any other medical conditions that can be treated with this IV