What "evidence" is there Pacquaio is on roids?

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  • D4thincarnation
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    #381
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Manny refused then D4th. You can't blame Manny's actions on Floyd. Hold Manny accountable for his actions.

    Obviously Floyd (and Haymon) made the financial calculation that fighting less would keep his paydays higher. He took time off. Why is an explanation needed?

    he was 33 years old. a lot of33 year olds have a year plus between fights. why does everytime floyd do something you think it is nefarious?

    He didn't refuse, it called negations. Floyd refused 24 day, 18 day, and refused NSAC testing.

    See we can all play that game

    He took 16 months off when Pacquiao was in his prime, then came back and fought Victor Ortiz and then said he won't do business with Bob Arum

    How many excuses

    Haymon and Floyd banked on the ******ity of his fanboys, and they were right do so.

    You may be fooled by it, but I won't be and anyone with any sense won't be either.

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      #382
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Please answer the questions I asked. I answered yours directly.

      I was not there so I am not going speculate on whatever symptoms he may or may not have. You don't belive him, I do.

      Now please, answer my questions. Thanks!
      So you have no explanation.

      Great, so my theory stands strong unless someone else can challenge it.

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        #383
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        He didn't refuse, it called negations. Floyd refused 24 day, 18 day, and refused NSAC testing.

        See we can all play that game

        He took 16 months off when Pacquiao was in his prime, then came back and fought Victor Ortiz and then said he won't do business with Bob Arum

        How many excuses

        Haymon and Floyd banked on the ******ity of his fanboys, and they were right do so.

        You may be fooled by it, but I won't be and anyone with any sense won't be either.
        You are playing a game, I am not. I get you like Manny but you should hold him accountable for his actions that caused the fight not to happen.

        Instead, all you do is point at Floyd and act like Manny was the victim when it was his refusal that started all of this.

        Please do not leave out the time when Manny was "ok to go in May" then when Nevada let floyd delay going to jail to fight, Manny suddenly got stitches from Bob's son in law. You always forget to mention this and when asked, you deflect and don't address directly.

        How come you don't look at this su****iously?

        Hold Manny accountable for his actions.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-17-2018, 12:07 PM.

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          #384
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          So you have no explanation.

          Great, so my theory stands strong unless someone else can challenge it.
          So you didn't answer the questions. Typical.

          Why do I need an explanation? When you get an explanation from a Floyd fan, you discredit it. You say no it has to be masking an IV. You have made your mind up. Cool, so have I.

          You can't have it both ways.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-17-2018, 12:10 PM.

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            #385
            Originally posted by WesternChamp
            if floyd was really better than pac, he would have never demanded random testing or no fight. its pretty simple.
            In your opinion then athletes who are less talented should be allowed to juice?

            Sorry I disagree but you have a right to your opinion.

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              #386
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              So you didn't answer the questions. Typical.

              Why do I need an explanation? When you get an explanation from a Floyd fan, you discredit it. You say no it has to be masking an IV. You have made your mind up. Cool, so have I.

              You can't have it both ways.
              Like I said, until someone can challenge my theory, it stands strong.

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                #387
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                You are playing a game, I am not. I get you like Manny but you should hold him accountable for his actions that caused the fight not to happen.

                Instead, all you do is point at Floyd and act like Manny was the victim when it was his refusal that started all of this.

                Please do not leave out the time when Manny was "ok to go in May" then when Nevada let floyd delay going to jail to fight, Manny suddenly got stitches from Bob's son in law. You always forget to mention this and when asked, you deflect and don't address directly.

                How come you don't look at this su****iously?

                Hold Manny accountable for his actions.

                Like I said Floyd refused NSAC tests and the testing procedure put forward by Pacquiao

                What was he hiding?

                Does his IV TUE from USADA show why he didn't want NSAC or anyone else carrying out the tests?

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                  #388
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  Like I said, until someone can challenge my theory, it stands strong.
                  LMFAO! You've been presented evidence, you just ignore it.

                  Yes, we know you are not going to change your opinion that Floyd cheated and Manny was clean. You aren't going off evidence, you are doing this because you like Manny and hate Floyd.

                  Literally anyone can do the same thing you are. You have somehow convinced yourself you are taking a principled stand in the face of overwhelming evidence when all you are is a disgruntled diehard fan.

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                    #389
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    LMFAO! You've been presented evidence, you just ignore it.

                    Yes, we know you are not going to change your opinion that Floyd cheated and Manny was clean. You aren't going off evidence, you are doing this because you like Manny and hate Floyd.

                    Literally anyone can do the same thing you are. You have somehow convinced yourself you are taking a principled stand in the face of overwhelming evidence when all you are is a disgruntled diehard fan.

                    Evidence for what?
                    We know the facts.

                    Explain how Floyd got dehydrated?

                    Wait, you can't do that, better make an excuse like Floyd and dodge the question.

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                      #390
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                      Like I said Floyd refused NSAC tests and the testing procedure put forward by Pacquiao

                      What was he hiding?

                      Does his IV TUE from USADA show why he didn't want NSAC or anyone else carrying out the tests?
                      He didn't refuse NSAC testing, he asked for more stringent testing because he knew NSAC testing wasn't enough to catch PED's. Clearly he was hiding nothing because he took advanced PED tests from that point forward.

                      I don't know.

                      Manny lost because Floyd is the better fighter. He turned down PED tests for the same reason he turned down the $40 mil-he wasn't confident he could win. Maybe he should've fought him before he went to jail-oops he faked an injury then.

                      Manny turned the fight down at every point where you and others think he had the best chance to win. Yet you never ask about those questionable decisions.

                      HMMMMMMM???????????????/

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