What "evidence" is there Pacquaio is on roids?

[D4thincarnation]

VADA is in no way a higher standard designed for boxing man LMAO!

What are you even talking about?

For one they test 100% CIR testing allowing them to catch Peterson.

USADA to random CIR testing.

[travestyny]

WADA accredited, licensed to carry out the tests.

They may do many other things out there.

Why do you keep giving random, irrelevant information.

Yes, the labs...which are the same labs used by USADA, are WADA accredited labs.


So was there a point?

[Bjl12]

I can only tell you what I believe.

No one here is in camp with Pac. No one here has access to his medical records. No one here has 'evidence'. You know that right?

But, if you are asking what we believe, Ill tell you I dont know how Im supposed to believe anything else.

1st, I do not believe that clean atheletes turn down the biggest fight in history over testing. Im just not gullible enough to believe he turned it down on principle. Come on. Pac flexes his negotiating muscle and makes up rules to his benefit (Cotto, Hatton, Marg) whenever he feels like it so I dont want to hear about commission rules. Pac fights for money and glory just like everyone else does.

2nd, Pac and his camp have never given a sensible explanation as to why he turned it down. One guy would say x, another would say y, yet another would say z... Pac never even explained it in his own language for people to understand.

Things are too shady at that point for me to believe that everything is on the up and up.

Not to mention they requested a CUT-OFF DATE...that goes against the very point of "random testing". It makes you wonder:

Why would someone want a cut-off date from RANDOM TESTING??

Well, for one thing, you could probably cycle some PED's in before the fight.

[AllBoxingAD]

1) So if Cotto said 147 lbs or nothing you would blame Cotto for ducking the fight? WTF


2) For the Hatton fight it after Pacquiao has his blood tests he goes home to recover and does not resume training.
Roach also says he takes a day to get back to his best.
It is all there on 24/7

3) Yet Floyd turned down Pacquiao when Pacquiao said let the commission do the blood testing

4) I'm just going on the facts and on what tests catch people. drugs are only in the blood a very short time. Hair testing and urine testing and saliva testing can do all blood does and more.

1) You didnt answer my question. Where are Manny's principles when HE is the one with the negotiating power?

2) I dont remember Manny going anywhere to 'recover' from a ****in blood test. Please link me to that episode, I never say no to a good laugh.

3) NSAC does not do random testing. Manny wanted schedualed blood tests. VADA that you respect so much would never agree to schedualed tests. How many more red flags do you need?

4) Your information is too limited. You dont know the science behind it. It shouldnt be up to the athletes to tell the scientists which tests to take or not. Surely we can agree on this?

[travestyny]

But we know the sample collection was not prolonged.

Can you explain how Floyd was dehydrated, when he walks around at his fighting weight?

I thought he normally only 150lbs in the ring?

Are you saying that it's impossible for him to have been dehydrated?


Did you see him dehydrated in the 24/7 when USADA came during training for Mosley?

[travestyny]

For one they test 100% CIR testing allowing them to catch Peterson.

USADA to random CIR testing.

USADA CIR tests all samples man. You've been believing too much bs.

According to records provided by the Nevada Athletic Commisison, each man gave 11 urine and eight blood samples. Among the special analyses given to the samples were Carbon Isotope Ratio Mass Spectrometry (CIR/IRMS) testing as well as tests to detect usage of EPO and human growth hormone.
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...182400390.html

[D4thincarnation]

1) You didnt answer my question. Where are Manny's principles when HE is the one with the negotiating power?

2) I dont remember Manny going anywhere to 'recover' from a ****in blood test. Please link me to that episode, I never say no to a good laugh.

3) NSAC does not do random testing. Manny wanted schedualed blood tests. VADA that you respect so much would never agree to schedualed tests. How many more red flags do you need?

4) Your information is too limited. You dont know the science behind it. It shouldnt be up to the athletes to tell the scientists which tests to take or not. Surely we can agree on this?

1)He did have the negotiating power with Floyd, the split was 50/50

Floyd turned down extra testing including blood testing from NSAC


2) Watch the episode, its on YouTube

3) Kizer said he would be happy to carry out the tests if the boxers requested them


4) It shouldn't be up to the athletes for testing altogether.
The cheats will always be ahead of the game, and drugs are going to be left behind soon with gene manipulation and designer babies.

It won't be long now till the a world boxing champions will be bred

[D4thincarnation]

USADA CIR tests all samples man. You've been believing too much bs.

No they don't, they have even said they test tactically.

[D4thincarnation]

Are you saying that it's impossible for him to have been dehydrated?


Did you see him dehydrated in the 24/7 when USADA came during training for Mosley?

Unless he was 160lbs + against Pacquiao in the ring.

But where did he gain all this extra muscle mass from.

When he fought Canelo he was 150lbs in the ring was he?

How heavy in the ring do you think he was against Pacquiao?

[D4thincarnation]

Why do you keep giving random, irrelevant information.

Yes, the labs...which are the same labs used by USADA, are WADA accredited labs.


So was there a point?

You know a lot of people work at the lab. Not working for USADA or WADA?