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  • #71
    Cant be sure, but the weight gain after the Olympics is a red flag imo. His first fight was at 230. Now he's carrying 254. Just a quick google image search shows the dramatic change in his body.

    It's just hard to tell with the guys this big now. Honestly the cycling done by the top guys (athletes) makes it hard to catch them. From what I've read, it seems Wilder is the only HW going through rigorous testing *now.

    Knowing what I know now, I'm certain guys like Tyson, Holyfield (confirmed), Lewis, and the Klitchkos were on PEDS. It was just a different time. Testing didn't exist. It's barely a thing now.

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    • #72
      A "Juicing" J.

      The King of Steroids.

      Joshua sure is picking up a lot of intetesting nicknames....

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      • #73
        From what I read AJ is doing more testing than Wilder VADA and UKAD . Wilder is just doing WBC clean boxing program (VADA effectively) .

        Anything else ?

        Whats your source I'd be interested to read it ?

        Parker was supposed to do VADA but "missed" a test last year because of a holiday maybe Ortiz needs to take more "holidays".


        Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
        Cant be sure, but the weight gain after the Olympics is a red flag imo. His first fight was at 230. Now he's carrying 254. Just a quick google image search shows the dramatic change in his body.

        It's just hard to tell with the guys this big now. Honestly the cycling done by the top guys (athletes) makes it hard to catch them. From what I've read, it seems Wilder is the only HW going through rigorous testing *now.

        Knowing what I know now, I'm certain guys like Tyson, Holyfield (confirmed), Lewis, and the Klitchkos were on PEDS. It was just a different time. Testing didn't exist. It's barely a thing now.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
          If AJ was on them roids tho he wouldnt be gassing out as much as he does so
          Depends which roids. Some diminish cardiovascular endurance. Actually most do. There are a couple that don't.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by DougalDylan View Post
            From what I read AJ is doing more testing than Wilder VADA and UKAD . Wilder is just doing WBC clean boxing program (VADA effectively) .

            Anything else ?

            Whats your source I'd be interested to read it ?

            Parker was supposed to do VADA but "missed" a test last year because of a holiday maybe Ortiz needs to take more "holidays".
            My source is Trainer Stephen Edwards that writes for this site. He made it clear (in his write up after the Charlo knockout of Lubin, I thinks called "Daily Bread" or something like that) that Wilder was the main guy at the top level who's going through strict testing.

            I've never seen any write up on Joshua's testing program (here or elsewhere). Now you can point to a source b/c you didn't in your response. Just your words to my knowledge.

            Btw as recent as Oct. 2017, Joshua wasn't under the same level of testing as Wilder according to Hearn's Twitter account and a bad left hook articke title, "Hearn Indicates Joshua is Open to More Stringent PED Testing"
            Last edited by Butch.McRae; 01-15-2018, 01:35 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
              Agreed. But I dont care how much VADA he does, Wilder is not natural either. 6'9 220 pounds of lean muscle. The dude looks like a 6'9 Terence Crawford (also unnatural imo). Those two both look like they were created in labs to make the perfect boxer's body, so chances are, they were, figuratively speaking.
              220 is not heavy for a guy of his height. Tyson wasn't a juicer and he was 215. Wilder doesn't have that "look". Joshua most certainly does. If you know what to look for it's obvious.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
                My source is Trainer Stephen Edwards that writes for this site. He made it clear (in his write up after the Charlo knockout of Lubin, I thinks called "Daily Bread" or something like that) that Wilder was the main guy at the top level who's going through strict testing.

                I've never seen any write up on Joshua's testing program (here or elsewhere). Now you can point to a source b/c you didn't in your response. Just your words to my knowledge.

                Btw as recent as Oct. 2017, Joshua wasn't under the same level of testing as Wilder according to Hearn's Twitter account and a bad left hook articke title, "Hearn Indicates Joshua is Open to More Stringent PED Testing"
                http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anth...-spirituality/

                http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...-ahead-of-bout

                Obviously it's UKAD, but Joshua is under exactly the same rules and regulations as the WBC's CBP program where testers have to know where he is at all times and as such he can be tested 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

                As for that Oct. 2017 article.. you're misconstruing the context there. That article came out because Joshua was asked about the WBA's new drug testing policy and within it he mentioned he was no issues with further texting; that isn't an indication that he isn't being tested extensively already because as I've shown above he clearly is.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
                  If AJ was on them roids tho he wouldnt be gassing out as much as he does so
                  Yeah because if youre on roids youre up all night and never get tired, people on juice tire just like anyone else

                  Anyways this whole thread is speculation about joshua being on roids and i believe he probably is
                  But the obly definate answer here is that parker is indeed king of pies

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by alexguiness View Post
                    Femi is a drug dealing, racist Nigerian bodybuilder.

                    AJ is a humble, philanthropic, Olympic athlete.

                    Who is real, AJ or Femi?

                    Only Eddie Hearn knows the truth...
                    Originally posted by KingAtom View Post
                    Depends which roids. Some diminish cardiovascular endurance. Actually most do. There are a couple that don't.
                    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
                    Yeah because if youre on roids youre up all night and never get tired, people on juice tire just like anyone else

                    Anyways this whole thread is speculation about joshua being on roids and i believe he probably is
                    But the obly definate answer here is that parker is indeed king of pies
                    Why would he be on Roids then if it doesnt enhance his performance, but actually makes it worse, him having more muscle makes him gass out more... im sure that if he was on roids he'd take the ones that would improve his durability and stamina instead of only making it worse

                    Just doesnt make sense to me.

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                    • #80
                      surely he sees the irony in a dude who got popped for nandrolone calling somebody else the king of steroids?

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