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  • #21
    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE View Post
    Robert Guerrero is elite
    Robert Guerrero went the distance

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    • #22
      Why would a professional boxer, in his prime, wait for months to have a surgery he knew he needed? Because when he comes back everyone wants him to fight Spence. I don't understand how everyone just goes along and is like "yea, well he needed surgery, so give him time to heal" That is a bunch of bs. He knew he needed the surgery right after the Garcia fight. He CHOSE not to have that surgery for over a couple months. Now he wants Vargas, then Porter, and then probably Garcia again too, and then another mandatory. Thurman could very easily drag this out to at least 2020, hoping some miracle happens and someone else beats Spence or Spence suffers a career ending injury. I have absolutely no respect for Thurman at all. He is the exact opposite of what a real champion is.

      Showtime should refuse to air any Thurman fight that is not against Spence. Haymon should refuse to set up any fight for Thurman that is not Spence.

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      • #23
        some of these PBC fighters have almost zero publicity. i understand that keith thurman isn't a super marketable guy, and spence is, given his looks, punching power, some of that southern charm.

        but FFS thurman isn't a bad fighter and he has zero publicity, and hardly fights. thurman's actually pretty well spoken, he's just a little awkward. hair's gotta go, too. i had long hair in my early 20's and it definitely rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

        i mean the guy has had two fights since the middle of 2015. hello? paging al haymon? you're in the prime of your career and a world champion. that's absolutely nuts to me. i know these guys get paid to not fight. i know they do. but FFS get mad, keith. you're a good fighter and you should be fighting.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by New England View Post
          some of these PBC fighters have almost zero publicity. i understand that keith thurman isn't a super marketable guy, and spence is, given his looks, punching power, some of that southern charm.

          but FFS thurman isn't a bad fighter and he has zero publicity, and hardly fights. thurman's actually pretty well spoken, he's just a little awkward. hair's gotta go, too. i had long hair in my early 20's and it definitely rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

          i mean the guy has had two fights since the middle of 2015. hello? paging al haymon? you're in the prime of your career and a world champion. that's absolutely nuts to me. i know these guys get paid to not fight. i know they do. but FFS get mad, keith. you're a good fighter and you should be fighting.
          All PBC guys have publicity. Keith Thurman & Errol Spence have the same buzz in the sport as a Terrence Crawford (TR) or Jorge Linares (GB).

          Thurman has opted to only fight once a year. Spence intends to fight 3 times this year.

          The Anti PBC rhetoric is so OLD!

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
            Why would a professional boxer, in his prime, wait for months to have a surgery he knew he needed? Because when he comes back everyone wants him to fight Spence. I don't understand how everyone just goes along and is like "yea, well he needed surgery, so give him time to heal" That is a bunch of bs. He knew he needed the surgery right after the Garcia fight. He CHOSE not to have that surgery for over a couple months. Now he wants Vargas, then Porter, and then probably Garcia again too, and then another mandatory. Thurman could very easily drag this out to at least 2020, hoping some miracle happens and someone else beats Spence or Spence suffers a career ending injury. I have absolutely no respect for Thurman at all. He is the exact opposite of what a real champion is.

            Showtime should refuse to air any Thurman fight that is not against Spence. Haymon should refuse to set up any fight for Thurman that is not Spence.
            Agree 100%. I think end of the day, if Espinoza and Showtime want the fight this year, it will probably happen. The Porter mandatory business is nonsense, the unification trumps that.

            Originally posted by BluDivision View Post
            All PBC guys have publicity. Keith Thurman & Errol Spence have the same buzz in the sport as a Terrence Crawford (TR) or Jorge Linares (GB).

            Thurman has opted to only fight once a year. Spence intends to fight 3 times this year.

            The Anti PBC rhetoric is so OLD!
            Agree with this also. For the most part, the guys who fight once or twice, do it because they're comfortable that way. The guys who want to fight more, either leave, or are vocal about fighting more, as in the case with Spence.

            Guys like Thurman and Garcia seem to be okay fighting once or twice...maybe because if they fight more, they won't be getting paid to take tune-ups all year.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by BluDivision View Post
              All PBC guys have publicity. Keith Thurman & Errol Spence have the same buzz in the sport as a Terrence Crawford (TR) or Jorge Linares (GB).

              Thurman has opted to only fight once a year. Spence intends to fight 3 times this year.

              The Anti PBC rhetoric is so OLD!
              And dumb. Thurman has been injured the past couple years which is why he’s been inactive. Plus, he’s had over 3m viewers watch his fights multiple times. He’s the A-side to anyone in the welter division not named Pacquiao.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                Why would a professional boxer, in his prime, wait for months to have a surgery he knew he needed? Because when he comes back everyone wants him to fight Spence. I don't understand how everyone just goes along and is like "yea, well he needed surgery, so give him time to heal" That is a bunch of bs. He knew he needed the surgery right after the Garcia fight. He CHOSE not to have that surgery for over a couple months. Now he wants Vargas, then Porter, and then probably Garcia again too, and then another mandatory. Thurman could very easily drag this out to at least 2020, hoping some miracle happens and someone else beats Spence or Spence suffers a career ending injury. I have absolutely no respect for Thurman at all. He is the exact opposite of what a real champion is.

                Showtime should refuse to air any Thurman fight that is not against Spence. Haymon should refuse to set up any fight for Thurman that is not Spence.
                Settle down there slugger. Thurman had surgery for injury after fighting the best available guys (which happened to not be very good) in Porter and Garcia after Ghost.

                I do think Brook, Spence, and TC all beat Thurman fairly easily. The Brook fight would be competitive, but I see Brook winning that ***if he's not ruined

                The fact that Thurman isn't fighting Spence in his first fight back is fine by me, but I also get the feeling Thurman doesn't want that fight. And for good reason.

                Thurman is an absolute hypejob that benefited from a very weak division which just got hot with the emergence of Spence and TC.

                People want to say WW is a glamour division, but they're living in the Floyd/Manny past. It's not a glamour division. It's extremely mediocre with 2 exceptional fighters in TC and Spence.

                Vargas, Thurman, Garcia, Porter, and Ali are all fun fighters who are C- to B- level guys. They get flat-out embarrassed by Floyd, Manny, Spence, TC, etc.

                With that being said - I am not bothered by Thurman acting like Adonis Stevenson. Why not? Because I know Thurman is NOT the goods. One can only be bothered by his antics if they think he's the goods.

                Belts don't mean anything. Any knowledgeable fan knows Spence and TC are #1 and #2 at WW (maybe TC first, I don't know)

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  And dumb. Thurman has been injured the past couple years which is why he’s been inactive. Plus, he’s had over 3m viewers watch his fights multiple times. He’s the A-side to anyone in the welter division not named Pacquiao.
                  I'd like to see Thurman try to sell PPV.

                  Hint: He wouldn't break 100k buys.

                  So in saying he's the "A-side" at WW is meaningless. Besides, Crawford is the A-side in WW and he's not even fought at the weight yet XD XD

                  #1 and #2 are TC and Spence. Thurman probably comes in around #3 or #4 with Kell Brook.

                  Your pick of Porter, Garcia, Vargas, and Ali for #5. Hell might even consider the plumber from Australia XD

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BluDivision View Post
                    All PBC guys have publicity. Keith Thurman & Errol Spence have the same buzz in the sport as a Terrence Crawford (TR) or Jorge Linares (GB).

                    Thurman has opted to only fight once a year. Spence intends to fight 3 times this year.

                    The Anti PBC rhetoric is so OLD!

                    jorge linares speaks very little englsih and is venezuelan

                    thurman is hardly mentioned and more importantly, he hardly ifghts. please don't act like he's got he same kind of publicity as spence.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Bjl12 View Post
                      I'd like to see Thurman try to sell PPV.

                      Hint: He wouldn't break 100k buys.
                      What a boxing fan you are, clamoring for PPV’s. Thurman has been one of the most outspoken about not doing PPV’s.

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