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  • Slicc
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    Predictions for Upcoming Welterweight Matches

    Keith Thurman vs Jessie Vargas: Vargas looked like a skilled boxer against Aaron Herrera, but Herrera's a bum. Vargas got outboxed by Bradley and Pacquiao; Pacquiao also floored him. Having said that, he stunned Bradley and Pac, dropped Herrera, and stopped Ali, so his power's decent. Thurman has shown boxing skills against top level welterweights, but he tends to throw wide punches. Also, his chin and body are sus. Thurman got dropped by Quandray Robertson, and stunned to the body and/or head by Soto Karass and Collazo. I see Thurman outboxing and wobbling Vargas, but getting stunned in the process. 60-40 Thurman.

    Danny Garcia vs Brandon Rios: The WBC is so sus for making this a title eliminator, lol. Danny Garcia is a flat-footed counter-puncher, with decent upper-body movement, power and a great chin. Brandon Rios has power and a better chin than Garcia, but he's practically a human punching bag. If Garcia somehow doesn't win this fight, I'll have to look out my bedroom window for flying pigs. 80-20 Garcia.

    Errol Spence Jr. vs Lamont Peterson: Spence is big, fast, durable and has horrific KO power. Peterson's power wasn't great at 140, and still isn't great at 147. However, Peterson has exhibited good boxing skills. I think Peterson's outmatched, and would be surprised if he goes the distance. I see Peterson outboxing Spence the first few rounds, then getting stopped in the middle rounds.
    70-30 Spence.

    Jeff Horn vs Terence Crawford: If those sus ass judges didn't give Horn a gift decision, this would've been Pacquiao vs Crawford. Anyways, Horn is a durable, sloppy and dirty fighter, with decent power. Crawford is a great switch-hitting boxer-puncher, with a good power. I see Crawford outboxing Horn. 70-30 Crawford.

    What do you guys think? Feel free to add any possible matchups, and your own predictions
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    Originally posted by Slicc
    Keith Thurman vs Jessie Vargas: Vargas looked like a skilled boxer against Aaron Herrera, but Herrera's a bum. Vargas got outboxed by Bradley and Pacquiao; Pacquiao also floored him. Having said that, he stunned Bradley and Pac, dropped Herrera, and stopped Ali, so his power's decent. Thurman has shown boxing skills against top level welterweights, but he tends to throw wide punches. Also, his chin and body are sus. Thurman got dropped by Quandray Robertson, and stunned to the body and/or head by Soto Karass and Collazo. I see Thurman outboxing and wobbling Vargas, but getting stunned in the process. 60-40 Thurman.

    Danny Garcia vs Brandon Rios: The WBC is so sus for making this a title eliminator, lol. Danny Garcia is a flat-footed counter-puncher, with decent upper-body movement, power and a great chin. Brandon Rios has power and a better chin than Garcia, but he's practically a human punching bag. If Garcia somehow doesn't win this fight, I'll have to look out my bedroom window for flying pigs. 80-20 Garcia.

    Errol Spence Jr. vs Lamont Peterson: Spence is big, fast, durable and has horrific KO power. Peterson's power wasn't great at 140, and still isn't great at 147. However, Peterson has exhibited good boxing skills. I think Peterson's outmatched, and would be surprised if he goes the distance. I see Peterson outboxing Spence the first few rounds, then getting stopped in the middle rounds.
    70-30 Spence.

    Jeff Horn vs Terence Crawford: If those sus ass judges didn't give Horn a gift decision, this would've been Pacquiao vs Crawford. Anyways, Horn is a durable, sloppy and dirty fighter, with decent power. Crawford is a great switch-hitting boxer-puncher, with a good power. I see Crawford outboxing Horn. 70-30 Crawford.

    What do you guys think? Feel free to add any possible matchups, and your own predictions
    I think Thurman will win by stoppage.
    Gift will stop Rios.
    Spence will stop PEDerson
    Bud will stop Jeff Hornacek.

    Of all these, the one I'm least sure about is the Thurman fight. I fully expect Thurman to win, but that one might go the distance. I doubt it doe.

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      #3
      All of those fights are mismatches and easy to call.


      Vargas and Peterson might give Thurman and Spence a few fits but they have slim chances.

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      • Eff Pandas
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        Think I pretty much agree with everything you said, but as mentioned already none of these fights feel super competitive either. Only disagreement with you I'd have is the %'s probably.

        I think I might make Thurman more like a 75/25 over Vargas, but I suppose Thurman hasn't been all that active so who knows how he comes back like + I think I might be a cat who's overly critical of Vargas.

        I'd for sure make Crawford more like a 85/15, 80/20 favorite over Horn. I think Crawford is gonna take this kid to school & maybe even stop him in the later rounds if his power hasn't diminished too much moving up in weight.

        I'm also feeling like Spence is like 85/15, 90/10 over Peterson. Idk that Peterson has much to offer Spence to make this fight interesting except attempting to stay on his chest all night hoping to make this some phone booth fight.

        And Garcia vs Rios really feels like a 90/10 type fight & I try not to go wider than 90/10, but I think you could here as Rios is all wrong for Garcia. It'll just be a testament to how tough Rios still is &/or how good is Garcia's power if he lasts the distance.
        Last edited by Eff Pandas; 01-11-2018, 02:13 AM.

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          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          I think I might make Thurman more like a 75/25 over Vargas, but I suppose Thurman hasn't been all that active so who knows how he comes back like + I think I might be a cat who's overly critical of Vargas.
          I had it 60/40 for Thurman, because of the fact that he's been hurt before, and Vargas has both boxing skills and power.

          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          I'd for sure make Crawford more like a 85/15, 80/20 favorite over Horn. I think Crawford is gonna take this kid to school & maybe even stop him in the later rounds if his power hasn't diminished too much moving up in weight.
          Crawford's never fought above 140, so I didn't wanna get ahead of myself.

          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          I'm also feeling like Spence is like 85/15, 90/10 over Peterson. Idk that Peterson has much to offer Spence to make this fight interesting except attempting to stay on his chest all night hoping to make this some phone booth fight.
          I gave Peterson 30, because of his boxing skills. I still don't see him beating Spence, or going the distance, but anything can happen.

          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          And Garcia vs Rios really feels like a 90/10 type fight & I try not to go wider than 90/10, but I think you could here as Rios is all wrong for Garcia. It'll just be a testament to how tough Rios still is &/or how good is Garcia's power if he lasts the distance.
          I try not to go wider than 80/20, but this match could be a 90/10. I think Rios could actually get brain damage from this fight.

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            Originally posted by Slicc
            I had it 60/40 for Thurman, because of the fact that he's been hurt before, and Vargas has both boxing skills and power.
            I disagree with the power thing people keep saying with Vargas. He's got 1 KO in his last 14 fights. He's got 10 KO's in his 30 career fights. Okay he KO'd Sadam Ali. Okay he hurt the CTE version of Tim Bradley. But idk anything else that says this guy gots real power & I'm not THAT impressed by those two things. I don't think he can hurt Thurman.

            Crawford's never fought above 140, so I didn't wanna get ahead of myself.
            Valid point. I guess I think Crawford is so good & Horn isn't that this is a virtual locked up fight for Crawford even if he doesn't transition to the new weight perfectly.

            I gave Peterson 30, because of his boxing skills. I still don't see him beating Spence, or going the distance, but anything can happen.
            I think Peterson's slowed down a lot lately. I thought Felix Diaz outboxed him & deserved the nod over him so I think this is a showcase fight with a nice name to add to his resume for Spence.

            I try not to go wider than 80/20, but this match could be a 90/10. I think Rios could actually get brain damage from this fight.
            Fair enough on the 80/20 max. I can understand that. When two guys get in there to fight I think a lot of guys automatically make it 100/0 or 98/2 or whatever which isn't realistic at all when top 10, top 20 guys fight so saying the biggest underdog between guys at this level gots a 20% chance is a fair take even if I don't do the same. I'm sure all the 100/0 & 98/2 guys would disagree with me doe lol.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              I disagree with the power thing people keep saying with Vargas. He's got 1 KO in his last 14 fights. He's got 10 KO's in his 30 career fights. Okay he KO'd Sadam Ali. Okay he hurt the CTE version of Tim Bradley. But idk anything else that says this guy gots real power & I'm not THAT impressed by those two things. I don't think he can hurt Thurman.
              Vargas stunned Pacquiao with a straight right hand, in the 8th round. Vargas doesn't have the power to knock dudes out left and right, but he does have the power to stun someone. Anything can happen in the ring, you never know.

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                Originally posted by Slicc
                Vargas stunned Pacquiao with a straight right hand, in the 8th round. Vargas doesn't have the power to knock dudes out left and right, but he does have the power to stun someone. Anything can happen in the ring, you never know.
                That was old Manny who got stunned & beaten by Horn next time out. Sure anything can happen, but this is not a guy who's KO'd or even stunned a guy in his prime & at the level Thurman is at. He's been life & death with most of the top 5 or 6 best guys he's fought & I got him losing at least two of those on my cards (Wale & Josesito).

                Debating small leans one way or the other here doe so its whatever, but I don't expect to see a close fight at all & I don't expect Thurman to be hurt. Maybe I'll be incorrect.

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                  I'd go with :

                  Thurman, but i think it may go the distance.
                  Garcia to stop Rios late.
                  Spence on points, wide.
                  Crawford to stop Horn late.

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                    Thurman by decision. Vargas is a composed boxer and Thurman is not an aggressive fighter anymore.
                    Garcia to stop Rios late especially if he goes to the body early.
                    Spence by decision maybe late stoppage. Peterson is a solid verteran boxer and hard to break down which is the usual way Spence goes about his business.
                    Crawford to stop Horn in the first half of the fight. Any fighter with a solid jab and an accurate 1-2 could handle Horn.

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