Why didn't Jmm rematch floyd after beating Pacquiao?

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  • BoxingTrav
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    #91
    Originally posted by WesternChamp
    yeah, because those two cats were actually trying to take each other's head off, instead of clinching and running but that's none of my bizz.
    They tried to take his head off as well. He won't let them. All fighters except Ricardo Mayorga keep their hands up because they are interested in defending. But the most important thing on the fighters mind is to win. Marquez and Pacman are not gifted enough defensively to be able to avoid shots while delivering their blows.

    Marquez is the consummate counter puncher who throws beautiful shots after his man attacks. He sets great traps and is able to make his opponents for their mistakes. An ultra aggressive fighter is tailor made for him. Floyd knows this, he is bigger, smarter and better at what Marquez does than Marquez himself. Hence the shut out victory.

    Pacman will blow you with his speed and power if you allow him. But he's also sets traps. He's willing to take a shot to land his shot. He believes his landed blow will have more effect on you than vice versa. When he fought Floyd, he engaged in a mental battle. He caught Floyd in traps but Floyd figured them out fast enough and he caught Manny in his traps. He froze Manny, had him thinking instead of fighting.

    Bottom line is that Floyd is superior to them. They didn't go to war with each other for entertainment only. They went toe to toe with each other because that's the best way for them to win. They are two equally matched boxers.

    Against Floyd they were tasked with impossible odds. They were fighting a master boxer, who was smarter and bigger than them who understood his advantages and exploited those. They had to get past his length, defense, offense, IQ and then after all of that his granite chin.

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    • WesternChamp
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      #92
      Originally posted by BoxingTrav
      They tried to take his head off as well. He won't let them. All fighters except Ricardo Mayorga keep their hands up because they are interested in defending. But the most important thing on the fighters mind is to win. Marquez and Pacman are not gifted enough defensively to be able to avoid shots while delivering their blows.

      Marquez is the consummate counter puncher who throws beautiful shots after his man attacks. He sets great traps and is able to make his opponents for their mistakes. An ultra aggressive fighter is tailor made for him. Floyd knows this, he is bigger, smarter and better at what Marquez does than Marquez himself. Hence the shut out victory.

      Pacman will blow you with his speed and power if you allow him. But he's also sets traps. He's willing to take a shot to land his shot. He believes his landed blow will have more effect on you than vice versa. When he fought Floyd, he engaged in a mental battle. He caught Floyd in traps but Floyd figured them out fast enough and he caught Manny in his traps. He froze Manny, had him thinking instead of fighting.

      Bottom line is that Floyd is superior to them. They didn't go to war with each other for entertainment only. They went toe to toe with each other because that's the best way for them to win. They are two equally matched boxers.

      Against Floyd they were tasked with impossible odds. They were fighting a master boxer, who was smarter and bigger than them who understood his advantages and exploited those. They had to get past his length, defense, offense, IQ and then after all of that his granite chin.
      keyword: BOTH

      pac/marquez went life and death because they BOTH were trying to take each other's head off.

      floyd wasnt trying to take marquez/pac's head off, had he tried too, he would have gone life and death too. but that's none of my bizz.

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        #93
        Marquez and his team wanted a rematch badly. They thought they could crack the Mayvinchi code with a Louis Slugger.

        Beristain believes there’s only one way a fighter could beat Floyd.

        “Only a fighter who goes into the ring with a bat” said Beristain.

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          #94
          Originally posted by BoxingTrav
          They tried to take his head off as well. He won't let them. All fighters except Ricardo Mayorga keep their hands up because they are interested in defending. But the most important thing on the fighters mind is to win. Marquez and Pacman are not gifted enough defensively to be able to avoid shots while delivering their blows.

          Marquez is the consummate counter puncher who throws beautiful shots after his man attacks. He sets great traps and is able to make his opponents for their mistakes. An ultra aggressive fighter is tailor made for him. Floyd knows this, he is bigger, smarter and better at what Marquez does than Marquez himself. Hence the shut out victory.

          Pacman will blow you with his speed and power if you allow him. But he's also sets traps. He's willing to take a shot to land his shot. He believes his landed blow will have more effect on you than vice versa. When he fought Floyd, he engaged in a mental battle. He caught Floyd in traps but Floyd figured them out fast enough and he caught Manny in his traps. He froze Manny, had him thinking instead of fighting.

          Bottom line is that Floyd is superior to them. They didn't go to war with each other for entertainment only. They went toe to toe with each other because that's the best way for them to win. They are two equally matched boxers.

          Against Floyd they were tasked with impossible odds. They were fighting a master boxer, who was smarter and bigger than them who understood his advantages and exploited those. They had to get past his length, defense, offense, IQ and then after all of that his granite chin.

          Excellent post. And much respect from Another Trav from Queenz.

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          • WesternChamp
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            #95
            "Look, do you know how Mayweather can be beaten? Only by knockout and how can you knock out an opponent that does not want to fight, doesn't throw punches, and hits you with the jab and you may have won the round but give it to him," Marquez told Boxing Scene.

            "If the fight is proposed and the conditions are acceptable, then of course [I would do it]. But we all know how things are done when fighting Mayweather in Las Vegas. In that city the officials protect him, let him do everything. Fighting him is a burden," Marquez said.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #96
              Rematches with JMM or Manny would be pointless. Floyd dominated both using his arm length and movement. Most beleive he would beat both just as easy anytime they'd fight because JMM nor Manny are the kind of grimy, tough, come forward brawlers that could force Floyd into an ugly rough fight like a Maidana.

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              • Gigantes
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                #97
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                These dudes would rather discuss what are the coolest trunks Floyd wore to a fight or speculate what he'll spend his money on than fights that aren't pertaining to Floyd, GGG (because they link to Floyd), Loma (because they link to Floyd) and Pacquaio (because they link to Floyd).
                yup it's really sad. but hey at least they're acting like idiots here and not in public lol

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                • KingTito
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                  #98
                  What the hell for? He got washed.

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                  • redmish
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                    #99
                    Who needed to see that again? It was a one sided masterclass. No version of JMM beats mayweather.

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                    • ruedboy
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Xi_
                      After a two year layoff Floyd got up off the couch and beat one the best fighters of this era with ease. Thats a top win.
                      The fact is JMM was only 3-3, when he fought at over 140 pounds.
                      That's not best at all, that's not even average.
                      Now, if you say JMM was "..one of the best of his era" at 135 pounds and under, I would agree.
                      I think you have to look deeper than a name on a resume and look at other factors such as age and weight.
                      Credit to Floyd for winning after a 20 month layoff but understand JMM coming up 2 weight classes wasn't a threat and that's why the odds makers had Floyd as a big favorite.

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