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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #111
    Originally posted by R_Walken
    How'd he duck horn ?

    He already fought but the rematch didn't fall in line with his government schedule. Mannys fought the who's who of his generation I don't think he's scared of Jeff Horn
    • "I don't want the rematch in Australia!!!" (Excuse)
    • "Oh, I gotta trip to China doe." (Excuse)
    • "When I arrived, I caught a cold, that's why I couldn't perform" (Excuse)
    • "The cut really bothered me, a lot blood coming out of my head" (Excuse)
    • "...there's random drug testing this time? Oh shiet..."
    • "Yes, I heard Bob say that Horn beat me, I disagree"



    Then you get the fact that neither Manny nor Roach were complaining about the scores until well after the fight - when 6 out of 8 judges still scored for Horn. Then the excuses started.

    I think Manny got shook when he saw how this dude was tossing him around and wasn't about to have breakfast with him like Bradley did.


    Originally posted by BoxingNewsResults
    Manny Pacquiao came up short in losing to little known Jeff Horn by a 12 round unanimous decision. Rather than give the 29-year-old Horn credit for having beaten him, Pacquiao chose to give the Australian no credit by blaming the loss on a cold that he says he caught. Pacquiao also mentioned that he was cut during the fight and was losing blood from his head.

    It was sort of sad to see Pacquiao coming up with excuses to explain away his loss to Horn. It was the same thing we saw from Pacquiao when he lost to Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Erik Morales. Pacquiao blamed the loss to Mayweather on a shoulder injury. Pacquiao says he lost to Morales because of a cut. Now Pacquiao is saying he lost to Horn because of a cold. It’s always bad when a fighter tells the boxing fans that his loss was due to an injury or illness. I wish that Pacquiao had taken the high road and given Horn credit for a job well done.

    Pacquiao could have won the fight last Saturday if he’d used more sustained combinations instead of looking for one big punch. Pacquiao seemed to think he could knock Horn out with a single power shot the way he did with Ricky Hatton 8 years ago. The problem is that Horn is a much bigger fighter than Hatton. Horn looked like he belonged in the junior middleweight division. Pacquiao didn’t have the kind of power to hurt a fighter with the size of Horn. But if Pacquiao had used combinations with a sustained nonstop punching attack the way he did in round 9, he would have won the fight and picked up his first stoppage win since 2009.

    Pacquiao was going into foreign territory in fighting in fighting in Australia, the home country of Horn. Pacquiao should have known that he needed a knockout or at least a spectacular performance for him to beat Horn. He didn’t do that. Pacquiao kept looking for one single shot the entire fight. What was strange was how Pacquiao didn’t learn from what he did in round 9 by looking to beat Horn with combinations in rounds 10 through 12. Pacquiao had discovered the key to beating Horn, and yet he didn’t choose to use it in the final 3 rounds.
    Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 01-10-2018, 08:25 PM.

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    • Strategic1
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      #112
      Arum is a genius and/or trying to fool us all.. Rob Pacquiao against Horn in front of 4 million viewers..then line up Crawford-Horn.. make Bud destroy Horn and make him look great.

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        #113
        This may be the last we ever hear of Jeff Horn.

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          #114
          Yup , I agree it will be a action fight and top rank loves it's trilogy s

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            #115
            Originally posted by revelated
            • "I don't want the rematch in Australia!!!" (Excuse)
            • "Oh, I gotta trip to China doe." (Excuse)
            • "When I arrived, I caught a cold, that's why I couldn't perform" (Excuse)
            • "The cut really bothered me, a lot blood coming out of my head" (Excuse)
            • "...there's random drug testing this time? Oh shiet..."
            • "Yes, I heard Bob say that Horn beat me, I disagree"



            Then you get the fact that neither Manny nor Roach were complaining about the scores until well after the fight - when 6 out of 8 judges still scored for Horn. Then the excuses started.

            I think Manny got shook when he saw how this dude was tossing him around and wasn't about to have breakfast with him like Bradley did.

            https://www.boxingnewsresults.com/20...-horn-illness/

            Manny should have never fought in austrailia in the first place why have the rematch there ?

            That's Manny he makes excuses for every L he takes

            But to say he ducked Horn is laughable and in no way shape or form reality

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              #116
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              Manny should have never fought in austrailia in the first place why have the rematch there ?
              You're right, he shouldn't have, but he did. Since he did, and he LOST!...he is now the B-side. A-side picks the venue.

              See, to me, this is easy for Manny. All he had to do was knock the MF'er smoove out like Spence did to Brook and Rungvisai did to Choco. Manny failed to do that. I don't give him a free pass and nobody else should, either.

              Originally posted by R_Walken
              That's Manny he makes excuses for every L he takes
              And by now, people should stop biting on the BS and hold the MF'er accountable! He doesn't deserve your free passes!

              It stuns me. Manny is the ONLY fighter I see this crap happening with. If it were ANY. OTHER. FIGHTER. They'd have abandoned them long ago.

              Lemieux makes excuses after getting schooled - gets NO love, no respect.

              Rigondeaux makes excuses after getting schooled - gets NO love, no respect.

              Stiverne makes excuses after getting schooled the first Wilder fight - NO love, no respect.

              Charles Martin makes excuses after getting schooled by Joshua - NO love, no respect.

              Yet Manny's done this crap against Floyd, against Morales, against Marquez and now Horn...and people are like, "eh, that's Manny, it's all good" NO!

              Originally posted by R_Walken
              But to say he ducked Horn is laughable and in no way shape or form reality
              When I see that many excuses - when I see your trainer tell you to rematch Horn or retire and STILL refuse to do it, when I see the guy WHO BEAT YOU CALLING YOU OUT FOR THE REMATCH to give you a chance to prove it was a fluke and you STILL refuse...that's a duck bro.

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                #117
                I feel this one is going to be a beating.

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                • R_Walken
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  You're right, he shouldn't have, but he did. Since he did, and he LOST!...he is now the B-side. A-side picks the venue.

                  See, to me, this is easy for Manny. All he had to do was knock the MF'er smoove out like Spence did to Brook and Rungvisai did to Choco. Manny failed to do that. I don't give him a free pass and nobody else should, either.



                  And by now, people should stop biting on the BS and hold the MF'er accountable! He doesn't deserve your free passes!

                  It stuns me. Manny is the ONLY fighter I see this crap happening with. If it were ANY. OTHER. FIGHTER. They'd have abandoned them long ago.

                  Lemieux makes excuses after getting schooled - gets NO love, no respect.

                  Rigondeaux makes excuses after getting schooled - gets NO love, no respect.

                  Stiverne makes excuses after getting schooled the first Wilder fight - NO love, no respect.

                  Charles Martin makes excuses after getting schooled by Joshua - NO love, no respect.

                  Yet Manny's done this crap against Floyd, against Morales, against Marquez and now Horn...and people are like, "eh, that's Manny, it's all good" NO!



                  When I see that many excuses - when I see your trainer tell you to rematch Horn or retire and STILL refuse to do it, when I see the guy WHO BEAT YOU CALLING YOU OUT FOR THE REMATCH to give you a chance to prove it was a fluke and you STILL refuse...that's a duck bro.
                  No Mannys still the A side. PAC can go to any country and fill a arena

                  People went to PAC/Horn because of Manny not Horn

                  PAC has sold countless PPVs and was involved in the biggest financial fight in history 3 years ago.

                  When he fights Crawford in vegas it'll be his fans that show up not Horns.

                  Mannys still the A side.


                  I'm not a Manny fan. I think the constant excuses he uses are pathetic I'm just saying that's who he is when he loses he gives excuses. Why should the horn fight be any different

                  Yeah that should tell you what you need to know when Roach is on record saying he should retire but if he doesn't just fight Horn. That should let you know what they think of Horn

                  Mannys fought the best of his era. I doubt that he'd be willing to fight anyone they throw in front of him except the dreaded gym teacher From Austrailia

                  It's not a duck. Just didn't fit his schedule.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by R_Walken
                    No Mannys still the A side. PAC can go to any country and fill a arena
                    It's not just about arena filling.

                    Choco vs. Rungvisai (SuperFly 1)


                    Rungvisai vs. Choco (SuperFly 2)


                    That's not a typo, that's intentional.

                    Kov/Ward 1


                    Ward/Kov 2



                    When there's a rematch, the winner ALWAYS gets top billing. A-side. Which is Horn.

                    If it's a first time meet, it's negotiated at the table, but usually the more decorated fighter gets top billing.

                    Which should be Horn, because Crawford isn't decorated at WW and Horn is champion.

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                    • R_Walken
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      It's not just about arena filling.

                      Choco vs. Rungvisai (SuperFly 1)


                      Rungvisai vs. Choco (SuperFly 2)


                      That's not a typo, that's intentional.

                      Kov/Ward 1


                      Ward/Kov 2



                      When there's a rematch, the winner ALWAYS gets top billing. A-side. Which is Horn.

                      If it's a first time meet, it's negotiated at the table, but usually the more decorated fighter gets top billing.

                      Which should be Horn, because Crawford isn't decorated at WW and Horn is champion.

                      Cool and your right, most of the time that happens

                      But Manny isn't Choco or Kov

                      Mannys A side even though he lost the first fight. He can walk out first , second doesn't change the fact people will go to and watch tht fight because of Manny. Jeff Horn is still B-side

                      If Mannys team were worth a sh.it they'd be the ones dictting terms
                      Is Horn entitled to more then the first fight for sure but he isn't the A-side



                      Look at Oscar / Mosley 2

                      Oscar lost but still had top billing for the rematch becuse Oscars the draw
                      Last edited by R_Walken; 01-10-2018, 09:37 PM.

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