Why do you want to see Tank Davis vs Lomachenko right now?

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  • Thraxox
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    #21
    Of course it is the same people that wants to see Loma get old first.

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #22
      Honestly I think a lot of people just wanna see Tank lose cuz that is the most likely outcome. Loma is a P4P discussed guy & Tank is a barely shown us anything at only 22, 23 still with his short reign. Floyd is so hated Haymon has become hated off of Floyd's connection with him & I'd argue the whole TMT team/Mayweather Promotions roster has become hated to up to & including Tank off of there connection to Floyd. Its the weirdest f#cking thing.

      If you discount racism for the hate Jack Johnson got & even out Ali's hate over his career from when he was really hated to him getting more fanboys I think Floyd is probably the most hated, best bad guy boxing has ever seen. Its no wonder he's made the most money in the ring. There has never been a cat the average fan has wanted to see lose so bad. LOL I mean they even want his fighters to lose. Its crazy, super hater level sh^t.

      And what I hate about this situation is Berchelt is getting left out. I don't know why people would rather see the #3 to #5 guy (Tank) fight the #1 guy (Loma) over the #2 guy (Berchelt) at 130 outside of their dislike of Floyd & their confidence Loma beats the young (ex) champ. Berchelt isn't locked in at HBO (his next fight is on Box Azteca so it doesn't appear he's locked in with HBO anyway) so this is a completely makeable fight between 1 & 2. I think the Tank vs Loma fight could be bigger in another year when Tank's got a lil more seasoning. In the meantime give me Loma vs Berchelt & I wouldn't hate seeing Loma vs Gamboa. Gamboa is still a nice name to have on your resume.
      Last edited by Eff Pandas; 01-09-2018, 11:52 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by genrick
        To me Davis has the mind of a ****** teenager.
        On his own, I doubt he'll duck anybody.
        He's following Floyd's orders.
        This is definitely correct. Tank is a child in his mindset still it appears to me. I mentioned in my post that he needs some seasoning, but he could use some growing up to.

        I think Tank is gonna be one of those guys we won't see how good he can get til he loses cuz he needs some reality to smack him upside the head. But with that comes the risk he's so delusional about himself he'll turn into one of these cats who's 1st L breaks him to so who knows.

        But either way dude realizing his future in boxing could be so much bigger then its gotten already if he takes this more seriously then he appears to be is something he needs to & will figure out sooner or later.

        As to the promoter remark that seems to be the law of the land in boxing today so I can't fault Tank for following orders cuz Crawford is following orders, Wilder is following orders, Manny followed orders for years. A ton of guys are "following orders" these days. Too many. Saying "I'll talk to my promoter in a couple weeks" has become the go to answer to the who necks question post-fight.

        Anyways, I have little interest in this weight.
        Yea thats Loma's & Tank's & all these 130lb guys & lil guys problem in general. There is a lack of interest to see guys smaller then the average adult male fight.

        I've been saying forever I wish they'd consolidate some of these smaller weight divisions. There are 9 of the 17 divisions between 105 & 135. Thats mfing nuts. High school wrestling, who's trying to include as many mfers as possible, only has 5 of their 14 divisions under 135 ffs.

        There's too many boxing divisions obviously, but there are wayyyyyyyy too many lil guy divisions.

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        • mathed
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          #24
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Lomachenko is more experienced both as an amateur and as a pro. Lomachenko has 5 opponents who range from decent to good: Rigondeaux, Walters, Russell Jr, Martinez, and Sosa. Tank has 1 opponent who was considered good in Pedraza.

          Now, whatever the case may be, what ever your reasons actually are, whether it's because Tank is under Mayweather and you hate Mayweather so you want to see those fighters associated with Mayweather lose or because you genuinely believe that Tank vs Loma would be a good competitive fight and you're not just being obnoxious about it when asking, in a way that indicates that you just feel like Tank is too inexperienced to beat Loma so you want the fight for a relatively easy win.

          So what is your reason?

          My reason for NOT wanting the fight right now is because I need to see Tank vs more B level fighters before stepping in the ring vs an elite/A+ fighter.

          Because posters are saying that Tank would smoke white boy Loma and I don't think that is going to happen. Make the fight, enough excuses and may the best man win.

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          • Schmerzen
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            #25
            because floyd is his promoter that's why many ppl wanna see him lose. he didn't fail as a boxer now they hope he fails as a promoter

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              #26
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              Can't someone just be a fan of Loma without being a bunboy? You are an extreme Loma hater for no apparent reason. That's far worse than being a fan of a highly skilled boxer. Hang on to that Salido loss if it makes you feel better. It might be the last time Loma losses a fight for many years to come.Do you actually expect 130 pound Loma to fight Crawford who now fights at 147? That is unrealistic and unfair. But you aren't trying to be fair. You just want Loma to lose and for everyone to stop saying how good he is. That seems to drive you crazy.
              If his bunboys say he is better than Floyd... why can't he go all the way to 154lbs like Floyd or at least 147lbs.? Rigo jumped up 2 divisions... why can't Loma move up? Why are you fine with Loma being bigger than his opponents but not the other way around? If he is gonna receive the hype he better back it up. I only hold him to the standards his bunboys gave other better and more proven fighters. And that Salido L is a big L so I surely will hold on to it.

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              • HarvardBlue
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                #27
                Originally posted by mathed
                Because posters are saying that Tank would smoke white boy Loma and I don't think that is going to happen. Make the fight, enough excuses and may the best man win.
                No one is saying that.

                People just want to see a Mayweather fighter lose. It's extra credit if it's Lomachenko.

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                • NEETzsche
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                  #28
                  He's the second or third best fighter in the division. Why wouldn't you want to see it?

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Lomachenko is more experienced both as an amateur and as a pro. Lomachenko has 5 opponents who range from decent to good: Rigondeaux, Walters, Russell Jr, Martinez, and Sosa. Tank has 1 opponent who was considered good in Pedraza.

                    Now, whatever the case may be, what ever your reasons actually are, whether it's because Tank is under Mayweather and you hate Mayweather so you want to see those fighters associated with Mayweather lose or because you genuinely believe that Tank vs Loma would be a good competitive fight and you're not just being obnoxious about it when asking, in a way that indicates that you just feel like Tank is too inexperienced to beat Loma so you want the fight for a relatively easy win.

                    So what is your reason?

                    My reason for NOT wanting the fight right now is because I need to see Tank vs more B level fighters before stepping in the ring vs an elite/A+ fighter.
                    Same as you, man. Tank needs to get some more experience under his belt and show he really belongs in there. This'll be a better fight in a year or two and probably at 135. Right now Lomachenko boxes circles around Tank - for the record I think he does in 2 years also, but nonetheless it'll be a better fight if Davies gets another coupla good wins under his belt.

                    EDIT: That said, it still is a legitimate fight to make - claiming that the only reasons someone could want this fight are either to protect Lomachenko or to hate on Floyd is indicative of the kind of mindset that is all too prevalent in the NSB bubble.
                    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 01-10-2018, 08:51 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      Lomachenko is more experienced both as an amateur and as a pro. Lomachenko has 5 opponents who range from decent to good: Rigondeaux, Walters, Russell Jr, Martinez, and Sosa. Tank has 1 opponent who was considered good in Pedraza.

                      Now, whatever the case may be, what ever your reasons actually are, whether it's because Tank is under Mayweather and you hate Mayweather so you want to see those fighters associated with Mayweather lose or because you genuinely believe that Tank vs Loma would be a good competitive fight and you're not just being obnoxious about it when asking, in a way that indicates that you just feel like Tank is too inexperienced to beat Loma so you want the fight for a relatively easy win.

                      So what is your reason?

                      My reason for NOT wanting the fight right now is because I need to see Tank vs more B level fighters before stepping in the ring vs an elite/A+ fighter.
                      Originally posted by vaynardevil
                      he's still too young to chalenge loma now

                      He has the IBF belt. How the hell is he not ready? He's a world champion. If he's not ready to defend it, then he needs to drop for people with balls enough to fight and defend it.

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