Comments Thread For: Wilder: I'm a Traveling King, Joshua Don't Travel - Is He Worried?

[bigjavi973]

When he ever travelled outside of US?

Local Alabama king

just a dumb comment really

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

They didn't travel to Nigeria and to view venues there did they? Industry insiders like Dan Rafael didn't say Nigeria was confirmed site, but he did say Vegas was confirmed to be the venue and both AJ and Hearn travelled to Tmobile arena to view the site.

You speak about both AJ's and Klitschko's appeal in the US like you are some expert in that field, yet both HBO and Showtime fought for rights to broadcast the first fight, that's something that is unprecedented and only happened in a couple of occasions for mega fights. Both HBO and Showtime showed major interest in the rematch and talked about it taking place in Vegas! And how they would split the rights to broadcast the rematch.

So I think you'll find you're the one that's so "deluded" you think a scrawny little promoter Eddie Hearn has giant networks like HBO and Showtime and people like Dan Rafael in his back pocket lying for a publicity stunt for AJ? LOL.. yea because Dan Rafael and HBO profit soooo much from giving AJ a publicity stunt.. Deluded poor soul.

Dan Rafael didn’t confirm it as the site you ****** b*stard. So that’s a complete lie. Another Huge L for you����
As for AJ and Klitschko’s appeal in the US- Just go check the TV ratings cause they were **** average. HBO and Showtime were not majorly fighting for the broadcast rights either cause as much as this might hurt you, AJ ain’t that big of a deal in the US. HBO were more than happy to just show it on tape delay FFS����
Vegas being the site made ZERO SENSE financially, obviously you have zero sense so believed, Eddie Hearns car salesman propaganda.����
There’s no point continuing this cause you clearly have very little understanding of boxing.
Now back to making your click bait threads- you sad deluded weirdo����

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Showtime is AJ's American TV Partner their would've been a collaboration.It was pencilled in for Vegas,Espinoza/Head of T Mobile Arena confirmed it.Why do you think AJ was in America at that time,definitely not for a holiday.I wouldnt rule out AJ fighting in Nigeria in the future,Hearn speaks Bull but it helps in terms of his hype.Look at Wilder's Promoters,after he fights he is forgetten about.You have to keep your name out their.It did make sense for it to be in Vegas it would've builded up a Wilder fight more it would've helped Wilder aswell as the first HW Blockbuster Fight in America for nearly a decade.Think about it 650K in the Afternoon is not bad,imagine what it would have got on Primetime with HBO promoting it aswell.I would say triple close to 1.8M-2M.

Nah man your wrong HBO had the deal for the rematch. Showtime could’ve only shown it on tape delay as agreed part of the deal for the first fight. They would not have collaborated on the production like they did for Lewis-Tyson, May-Pac. Go read up on the original deal. And there’s no valid evidence it was pencilled in for Vegas. The only evidence is Hearn saying “Vegas is the front runner” which was obviously BS, the Millennium Stadium was always on hold because that was where the fight was taking place.
Why where AJ/Hearn in Vegas? It’s pretty obvious to me, as a publicity stunt and to also promote AJ to the US market. The Wlad rematch made zero sense financially being in Vegas.
As for AJ fighting in Nigeria, that’s completely ludicrous😂😂😂typical Hearn BS, he’s full of ****.
And the US TV numbers were **** average at best, if we’re being honest they were poor; Klitschko-Fury drew over 1m viewers at around the same time in the US, that proves they were poor.

[NahMean]

Dan Rafael didn’t confirm it as the site you ****** b*stard. So that’s a complete lie. Another Huge L for you����
As for AJ and Klitschko’s appeal in the US- Just go check the TV ratings cause they were **** average. HBO and Showtime were not majorly fighting for the broadcast rights either cause as much as this might hurt you, AJ ain’t that big of a deal in the US. HBO were more than happy to just show it on tape delay FFS����
Vegas being the site made ZERO SENSE financially, obviously you have zero sense so believed, Eddie Hearns car salesman propaganda.����
There’s no point continuing this cause you clearly have very little understanding of boxing.
Now back to making your click bait threads- you sad deluded weirdo����

Again you speak like some expert in the field. You say AJ isn’t a big of a deal in the US yet he’s the only fighter in HISTORY to get a multi fight deal in the US without ever fighting there. “HBO were more than happy to just show it on tape delay FFS” He’s sooo irrelevant that a huge network even paid for the rights for a tape delay FFS. Again you have no grasp or concept of business. Business moves are made for profit in the LONG RUN!

By your logic, AJ will never fight in the US and Charles Martin fight should never have happened as they paid him around 6mil.. An article was posted on here just last week where Hearn admitted to overpaying Charles Martin to the point they did not see a profit from the fight itself!! Wouldn’t you class that as “ZERO SENSE financially”???.

You’re such an expert businessman but you missed the part where Vegas is a site where casinos pay you to host your fight as opposed to you having to pay Wembley to book the venue. That’s exactly why GGG vs Canelo took place in Vegas and not Coybow stadium!!! Despite having a fraction of the seating capacity, average tickets were around $6k which means the gate made way more money than a stadium would have. If you weren’t so brain dead you would know this is because the people that pay $6k to go to mega fights in Vegas aren’t boxing fans, they and gamblers. Idiot.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Again you speak like some expert in the field. You say AJ isn’t a big of a deal in the US yet he’s the only fighter in HISTORY to get a multi fight deal in the US without ever fighting there. “HBO were more than happy to just show it on tape delay FFS” He’s sooo irrelevant that a huge network even paid for the rights for a tape delay FFS. Again you have no grasp or concept of business. Business moves are made for profit in the LONG RUN!

By your logic, AJ will never fight in the US and Charles Martin fight should never have happened as they paid him around 6mil.. An article was posted on here just last week where Hearn admitted to overpaying Charles Martin to the point they did not see a profit from the fight itself!! Wouldn’t you class that as “ZERO SENSE financially”???.

You’re such an expert businessman but you missed the part where Vegas is a site where casinos pay you to host your fight as opposed to you having to pay Wembley to book the venue. That’s exactly why GGG vs Canelo took place in Vegas and not Coybow stadium!!! Despite having a fraction of the seating capacity, average tickets were around $6k which means the gate made way more money than a stadium would have. If you weren’t so brain dead you would know this is because the people that pay $6k to go to mega fights in Vegas aren’t boxing fans, they and gamblers. Idiot.

You’re clearly the idiot here, let’s start off with the fact you LIED about Dan Rafael confirming the site.😂
And no he’s not a big deal in the US his tv figures PROVE THAT!
Your comparison to Canelo-GGG is absolutely ridiculous!😂Both those guys are proven big draws in the US. Canelo is a HUGE draw in the US. The reason Canelo-GGG can make so much via gate in Vegas is because the DEMAND is there. The same level of DEMAND is clearly not there for AJ-Wlad because niether fighter is DRAW in the US. Plus Canelo-GGG was a US PPV fight that done over 1m buys, AJ-Wlad couldn’t even do 700k views in the US😭😭😭😭 are you for real, you dumb ****er???
Your AJ ”fanboyism” is completely deluding your view.
Of course AJ will fight in the US at one point but it will be against a fighter who mainly draws in the US, or a guy who has potential to draw in the US like Wilder, therefore it makes financial sense. As opposed to fighting somebody who could never draw and has never drawn in the US so had to spend the prime of his career fighting in Europe(mainly Germany). Why? Because it made financial sense!
Why fight Klitschko in the US when they can make waaaay more money fighting in Europe i.e the UK.
As for Charles Martin, Hearn didn’t overpay him, once again your being brainwashed by Hearn’s salesman BS. Martin was the champion, Hearn NEEDED the belt, its an INVESTMENT that made financial sense, and it would’ve made Hearn a lot of money via Sky PPV. It’s common sense! Something you clearly don’t have. If Hearn doesn’t pay Martin that what does AJ do fight Pulev for the EBU title😂😂 Your a ****ing delinquent kid.
Just get back to making your pathetic click bait threads about AJ/Wilder or whatever else you do in your sad life, cause your just getting embarrassed here.
Absolutely riddled with L’s😭😭😭😭

[brian___]

AJ's promoter wants to protect his money train.

[NahMean]

You’re clearly the idiot here, let’s start off with the fact you LIED about Dan Rafael confirming the site.��
And no he’s not a big deal in the US his tv figures PROVE THAT!
Your comparison to Canelo-GGG is absolutely ridiculous!��Both those guys are proven big draws in the US. Canelo is a HUGE draw in the US. The reason Canelo-GGG can make so much via gate in Vegas is because the DEMAND is there. The same level of DEMAND is clearly not there for AJ-Wlad because niether fighter is DRAW in the US. Plus Canelo-GGG was a US PPV fight that done over 1m buys, AJ-Wlad couldn’t even do 700k views in the US�������� are you for real, you dumb ****er???
Your AJ ”fanboyism” is completely deluding your view.
Of course AJ will fight in the US at one point but it will be against a fighter who mainly draws in the US, or a guy who has potential to draw in the US like Wilder, therefore it makes financial sense. As opposed to fighting somebody who could never draw and has never drawn in the US so had to spend the prime of his career fighting in Europe(mainly Germany). Why? Because it made financial sense!
Why fight Klitschko in the US when they can make waaaay more money fighting in Europe i.e the UK.
As for Charles Martin, Hearn didn’t overpay him, once again your being brainwashed by Hearn’s salesman BS. Martin was the champion, Hearn NEEDED the belt, its an INVESTMENT that made financial sense, and it would’ve made Hearn a lot of money via Sky PPV. It’s common sense! Something you clearly don’t have. If Hearn doesn’t pay Martin that what does AJ do fight Pulev for the EBU title���� Your a ****ing delinquent kid.
Just get back to making your pathetic click bait threads about AJ/Wilder or whatever else you do in your sad life, cause your just getting embarrassed here.
Absolutely riddled with L’s��������

I read something Dan had said but can't find it. But you claim Vlad is so unknown yet he holds some of the highest numbers for HBO! 3mil for Vlad vs Haye (both guys not from. US), 1.7 mil vs Jennings ect! Fury vs Klitschko and AJ vs Klitschko took place during off peak times in the US so the numbers will undoubtedly be lower you moron.

Spence got 6 million views against Bundu but only got 300k against Brook in a title fight that was really anticipated! Because it wasn't prime time you idiot, for a so called business expert you seem to know so little about business economics.

Canelo is so HUGE he got 800k against Trout you dimwit! That’s less than unknown Vlad vs Jennings. Since you want to use tape delay numbers, AJ vs Vlad got 900k on tape delay.. GGG vs Canelo got 740k on replay.

Hearn didn’t overpay Martin??!! LMAO he got 8mil dollars you bug that’s more than Wilder (A champion) has ever got. Martin went from 250k purse against Glazkov to 8mill purse, that’s not an OVERPAYMENT?? Maritin would need to fight 32 times to earn 8mil. You’re even ******er than I thought. Seriously you’re embarrassing yourself.

“Investment” is exactly what they did with Martin. They lost money to make it in the LONG RUN, It’s how business works.. as a expert businessman I’d expect you to know this! Now use your dead brain to imagine them investing in the US?? Once AJ becomes a name in the US that investment grows off 10 folds bigger than ever. See if you had a brain cell you’d ask yourself “AJ is unknown in the US so why are Showtime and HBO bidding to sign him” they will be investing in him you mug.

Regardless, the numbers for AJ vs Vlad would be huge in the US. If it can get 900k on tape delay it will easily double that number if it takes place in the US. The fight was fight of the year, it was a mega event so the rematch would have been successful, they would also have UK PPV still plus get Vegas Casino money. Also the gate would have sold out! As I stated, the people that pay $6k for tickets aren’t boxing fans, they are high rollers there to gamble.. They don’t need to be fans of AJ or even boxing. Even if no Americans attended the fight, Hatton had 35k Brits travel to the US. AJ has a way bigger following than Hatton so the arena in the US would sell out with Brits alone. ****** idiot.

[_Rexy_]

How does AJ have a glass jaw? Isnt wilder the one who almost got slept by molina?

neither have glass jaws, neither have been stopped.


What is it with fans these days that think anyone who gets rocked has a glass jaw?

[mrlopez]

19 bums and 1 senior citizen

Better than 38 and calling yourself great. Half the fights and better recognition from everyone around the world.

[Tygshsu]

neither have glass jaws, neither have been stopped.


What is it with fans these days that think anyone who gets rocked has a glass jaw?

It's Americans mans.They got 'high expectations' those ****y,entitled,spoiled wankers