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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tutsa
    Yes absolutely the guy and even his own trainer said they might drop the at 147 cause he can't make wait .. the guy is 5 10 very big I don't need to GTFO buddy , you need learn more about your fighter before defending him ... Everyone knows he walks around over 170 all the time .. next right is against Anthony bM.
    What's walk around weight have to do with anything?

    Walk around weight and fighting weight are entirely two different things.

    Pacquiao cherry picked Horn and lost.

    Learn how to quote too. People don't get notified to your replies when you don't.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      He lost because people that weren't listening to Teddy Atlas or were biased towards Pacquiao saw a different fight. America saw a robbery the rest of the world didn't.

      Everytime Pacquiao loses there's excuses, excuses, excuses. The way his fans talk he never lost a fight legitimately.
      Agree the Horn fight was NOT a robbery in the least; Pac definitely did not win that fight.

      I think Pac was robbed against Bradley in their first fight, doe..

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        #23
        Originally posted by ESAU
        Agree the Horn fight was NOT a robbery in the least; Pac definitely did not win that fight.

        I think Pac was robbed against Bradley in their first fight, doe..
        That fight proved how easy people are brainwashed. It was amazing seeing all these Americans screaming robbery and all the none Americans thinking WTF are they talking about.

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        • Tutsa
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          #24
          My bad maybe not over 170 but he was definitely in the 60s... I gave Horn slot credit he is tough fighter and by the looks of it a stand up guy . Let's hope they do it again it was a great fight .. Manny underestimated the hornet and it cost him alot !! I thought it was a draw but I'm just a fan don't mean anything so they need to mix it up again !!

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            #25
            Originally posted by ESAU
            Breh, you know I got mad love for you for our shared affection of Gremlins, but that fight was NOT a robbery!

            Pac did NOTHING for the first 8 rounds of the fight - he won a round here or there, but aside from a few rounds towards the end where Pac definitely won, it was hard to give him 2-3 rounds.

            It wasn't so much that Horn WON the fight, as Pac gave the fight away by not doing anything.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Blue54
              6 to 4 for Sosa Gamboa made it close in some rounds but cmon he didnt deserve that W.
              Sounds about right. First six rounds of the fight were pretty swingy to me.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Thraxox
                My man I'm a big Pac fan - but I'm just keeping it real.

                My dude didn't do shyte in that fight! Aside from him busting up and hurting (and almost stopping Horn) in that one round, he hardly did anything.

                Horn didn't hurt Pac, but he pretty much dominated three of the four major aspects of scoring rounds, for majority of the rounds, which is how a fight is scored.

                Again, the best way to describe it, is that Horn didn't WIN the fight, but Pac LOST the fight, i.e. gave it away by not doing enough.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Tutsa
                  My bad maybe not over 170 but he was definitely in the 60s... I gave Horn slot credit he is tough fighter and by the looks of it a stand up guy . Let's hope they do it again it was a great fight .. Manny underestimated the hornet and it cost him alot !! I thought it was a draw but I'm just a fan don't mean anything so they need to mix it up again !!
                  did they have fight-night weights? not saying you're wrong, i just don't remember seeing them?

                  Horn probably rehydrated the typical 10-13 pounds majority of fighters who have to cut weight do.

                  So it isn't a stretch to believe he came in around 160.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ESAU
                    My man I'm a big Pac fan - but I'm just keeping it real.

                    My dude didn't do shyte in that fight! Aside from him busting up and hurting (and almost stopping Horn) in that one round, he hardly did anything.

                    Horn didn't hurt Pac, but he pretty much dominated three of the four major aspects of scoring rounds, for majority of the rounds, which is how a fight is scored.

                    Again, the best way to describe it, is that Horn didn't WIN the fight, but Pac LOST the fight, i.e. gave it away by not doing enough.
                    your mixing it up. It was pacquiao who didn't do nothing after the 9th round where Horn rounded it up and won 10 and 11th while 12 was close, but basically Pacquiao was winning 7-1 on most people's card going into the 9th round, where round 8 is the most decisive round for Horn.

                    Pacquiao had three major factors, Ring Generalship, clean and effective punches landed, and defense. Agression was only won by Horn because Pacquiao was not the one coming forward. While Horn lost all three.

                    If you are going to say Pacquiao didn't do anything in the first 8 rounds, then you are basically giving the fight to horn 9-3 10-2 which is autracious.
                    Last edited by Thraxox; 01-06-2018, 12:18 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Thraxox
                      your mixing it up. It was pacquiao who didn't do nothing after the 9th round where Horn rounded it up and won 10 and 11th while 12 was close, but basically Pacquiao was winning 7-1 on most people's card going into the 9th round, where round 8 is the most decisive round for Horn.

                      Pacquiao had three major factors, Ring Generalship, clean and effective punches landed, and defense. Agression was only won by Horn because Pacquiao was not the one coming forward. While Horn lost all three.

                      If you are going to say Pacquiao didn't do anything in the first 8 rounds, then you are basically giving the fight to horn 9-3 10-2 which is autracious.
                      I gave Horn the fight 7 rounds to 5. Pac won a few of the first 6-7 rounds on landing a few more clean punches, but Horn won more of those rounds because of his aggression and work-rate, and by default, landed more punches.

                      Horn came back strong after the 9th, which was arguably a 10-8 Pac round.

                      Guess this just shows how subjective boxing can be, and how different people can see different things.

                      Pac lost the fight more than Horn won it, doe..

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