Is Canelo The Most Improved Boxing In The Last 5 Years?

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  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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    #11
    Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
    The Bronze Bomber. Five years ago they was saying I'd lose to Arreola or Stiverne. Now I'm king of the division, Joshua running, and I'd whoop Lennox Lewis and both Klitschkos in they primes.
    Originally posted by harwri008
    I would say Badu Jack. Since he lost to Edward he's improved a lot. He's a lot more versatile. Before the defeat he seemed to be doing the same thing over and over.
    Two good calls, wilder and jack completely blanked my mind but now that you guys mentioned them both has literally took their game up a few notches.

    I think the conversation is Canelo, Wilder, Jack.

    Originally posted by Deontay Wilder
    The Bronze Bomber. Five years ago they was saying I'd lose to Arreola or Stiverne. Now I'm king of the division, Joshua running, and I'd whoop Lennox Lewis and both Klitschkos in they primes.
    Originally posted by harwri008
    I would say Badu Jack. Since he lost to Edward he's improved a lot. He's a lot more versatile. Before the defeat he seemed to be doing the same thing over and over.
    Originally posted by soul_survivor
    No.

    He hasn't improved his stamina enough, hasn't improved his punch output enough and still can't outbox or stop guys at the highest level (Trout, Lara, GGG and Cotto). I felt he lost 2 of the fights I mentioned, both of them somewhat clearly. Plenty feel he lost more.

    The most improved fighter would have to be Estrada. That might sound weird, as he has been a good fighter for years now but there was a time when he sat back too much, didn't press the action enough and allowed opponents to get into a fight they shouldn't have. Roman and Viloria can attest to that. But, gradually he has better understood the pro game, is more physical, presses the action and is now a tremendously well rounded fighter.

    I would also name Linares, who seemed to have the opposite problem to Estrada, in that he pressed the action too much, didn't move his feet enough was easy to find. Linares can still be hit but his all round game is not only better but more educated. He moves himself into punching positions better than just about any and every one in the division.
    uymmmmmm I say no imo cause they both been talented etc they just had setbacks but beside the setback they been much of the same with lil improvemtns but not enough to be labeled as MOST IMPROVED imo they just riding a winning streak since their setbacks.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #12
      Santa Cruz looks better with each fight.

      Jermell Charlo

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      • boliodogs
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        #13
        I think he is the most improved. I see much improvement in every fight. I think he would KO Mayweather, Cotto, Lara and Trout in a rematch. Of course both Cotto and Mayweather are well past prime but I think today's Canelo would knock them out even if they were in their prime. Canelo is a bad ass middleweight now. His stamina could be improved and I'm sure he is working on that.

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        • BoxingIsGreat
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          #14
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          I think he is the most improved. I see much improvement in every fight. I think he would KO Mayweather, Cotto, Lara and Trout in a rematch. Of course both Cotto and Mayweather are well past prime but I think today's Canelo would knock them out even if they were in their prime. Canelo is a bad ass middleweight now. His stamina could be improved and I'm sure he is working on that.
          With prime Cotto it might be competitive, with prime Floyd it's a completely another stratosphere. Canelo isn't in Floyd's league.

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          • Chuckguy
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            #15
            Originally posted by j.razor
            Nelo beat them ALL. the ONLY fighter Nelo lost to was T.B.E.
            He was gifted a win to Lara and gifted a draw to ggg come on fawking fan boy

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            • DumpkinsPlus5
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              #16
              Originally posted by harwri008
              I would say Badu Jack. Since he lost to Edward he's improved a lot. He's a lot more versatile. Before the defeat he seemed to be doing the same thing over and over.
              This is the right answer

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              • Damn Wicked
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                #17
                Yes, Canelo has improved greatly. He's way slicker than he used to be as well as being bigger and stronger.

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                • j.razor
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  He was gifted a win to Lara and gifted a draw to ggg come on fawking fan boy
                  You the stan over here....Nelo beat Lara & beat lil g. The evidence is in the video. Stop listening to jim lampley, he will dumb you down.

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by j.razor
                    You the stan over here....Nelo beat Lara & beat lil g. The evidence is in the video. Stop listening to jim lampley, he will dumb you down.
                    Lara fight was on Showtime. You've never seen it lol. That's dumber than listening to Lampley.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by j.razor
                      Good call, I like that one.
                      Jack got Edwards problems. He also got Periban and DeGale problems. He can't take a punch. Wonder why you rate him so highly? Hmmmm. Jack better than GGG, Loma at Boxing? LOL.

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