Comments Thread For: Guillermo Rigondeaux is Stripped of WBA World Title

[KillaCamNZ]

"The special permission was requested, and [Rigondeaux] was given the opportunity because it is an important fight for boxing," stated WBA President Gilberto Mendoza Jr. last year.

"If he loses, he would then have to lose the recognition [of being WBA champion] because it is what corresponds [to agreement of allowing him to move up]"

So there's the explanation. The WBA have stripped Rigo of their 122lb title for losing at 130lb ... because that's what they told him they would do if he lost.

But why did you tell him that, Mr Mendoza?

That's what I'd like to know.

Legit question, I'd love to hear the WBA explain that part.

Following through with what they said they'd do is one thing, but it would be nice if we knew why they were doing it in the first place. I can't see justification for stripping a guy of a 122lb title because he stepped up and lost to a P4P fighter @ 130lb.

Are they under the impression that Rigo will no longer make 122 going forward? There has to be some justification for giving him this ultimatum beforehand.

[BigStomps]

Those are all superficial things. Clearly you're unhappy inside or you wouldn't be so negative and hateful.




Why not debate our points like a civilized human instead of resorting to childish rantings?




The Sulaiman family was independently wealthy before getting involved in boxing. You can criticize them for many things. Playing favorites. Being dictators. Etc. But their focus has never been fattening their pockets, which is why they're the only major organization that hasn't had a bribery scandal.




The WBC has a long history of being the innovators. Instituting major changes before anybody else, only for the rest of the industry to eventually follow. It's not just the clean boxing program. It's reducing fights from 15 rounds to 12. It's moving the weigh-in to the day before the fight. It's adding a fourth ring rope. The first organization to require drug testing at all. Insisting on thumb-attached gloves.

So many safety precautions that we now take for granted that were all created by the WBC. You don't know the Sulaimans at all if you question their sincere desire to improve boxing. The money has always been secondary to them. Probably because the father was already so wealthy and was just a huge boxing fan that wanted to be involved. The other organization presidents have used boxing to become rich. The Sulaimans were already rich. So the mindset of the WBC has always been different.

Hell yeah I'm happy I'm set with my own house, my cars and a good job! I'm not one of them ignorant fools who say money isn't everything and money can't buy everything and blah, blah, blah... **** all that! Money is the only thing and I'm happy I get a decent check every two weeks! I do wish I had allot more money though! I'd be even more happy!
And your not gonna convince me otherwise about the WBC and that fat **** Suleiman! He's a ****ing crook just like the rest of them. Until the WBC actually do something to help clean up boxing and get rid of all these piece of shet belts Imma keep saying **** the WBC and all them alphabet soup organizations!
For example look what they did today. They sanctioned two fights in the same division for the same belt. What kinda shet is that? Why did they sanction the Alvarez fight for the interim light heavyweight belt when at the same time they sanctioned the Stevenson-Jack fight for the real light heavyweight belt? Why do they even need an interim belt?? For one purpose only. To get twice the sanctioning fees... Just a bunch a ****ing crooks taking more money from fighters. Getting twice the sanctioning fees. That's why I'm glad Canelo told them to **** off and refused to pay them a ****ing dime!
Till this joke of an organization stops creating belts left and right Imma keep saying **** the WBC and that fat ****ing lame Suleiman!

[N/A]

Why did they sanction the Alvarez fight for the interim light heavyweight belt when at the same time they sanctioned the Stevenson-Jack fight for the real light heavyweight belt?

Because the primary purpose of every sanctioning body is to mediate disputes between promoters and create an independent buffer. Haymon had been able to delay the mandatory multiple times since he had the champion and challenger, but Arum began to heavily complain and threaten legal action if another delay was allowed.

So to resolve the dispute between Haymon and Arum, the interim title fight is being used as a compromise. Has nothing to do with sanctioning fees because there still would have been sanctioning fees for an eliminator and/or silver world title fight. Arum wanted the interim title because it means the winner gets a better split when things inevitably go to purse bid if it's Haymon vs. Arum when the winners meet.

[BigStomps]

Because the primary purpose of every sanctioning body is to mediate disputes between promoters and create an independent buffer. Haymon had been able to delay the mandatory multiple times since he had the champion and challenger, but Arum began to heavily complain and threaten legal action if another delay was allowed.

So to resolve the dispute between Haymon and Arum, the interim title fight is being used as a compromise. Has nothing to do with sanctioning fees because there still would have been sanctioning fees for an eliminator and/or silver world title fight. Arum wanted the interim title because it means the winner gets a better split when things inevitably go to purse bid if it's Haymon vs. Arum when the winners meet.

Well that's a bullshet excuse too and I'm not buying it!
Why has the WBC allowed Al Haymon to manipulate that piece of shet light heavyweight belt when he has both fighters under him? Stevenson and Alvarez?? Why not order the fight or strip Stevenson if he doesn't wanna fight Alvarez??
I'm tell you why. Cause Al Haymon is the WBC's biggest client and he just gives the WBC a little money to shut the **** up and turn the other way while he's allowed to do what he wants.
Like I said, the WBC is as greedy as all the rest of the organizations and they just in it for the money and don't give a flying **** about boxing. IDK why it's so hard for you to comprehend that??

[N/A]

Well that's a bullshet excuse too and I'm not buying it!

The facts are what they are regardless of what you choose to believe. Some people don't buy that we landed on the moon. There will always be a lunatic fringe.

Why has the WBC allowed Al Haymon to manipulate that piece of shet light heavyweight belt when he has both fighters under him?

WBC has always allowed step aside deals. Going back many decades. As long as the champion and challenger are both happy, the WBC typically doesn't interfere. Haymon was delaying the fight to get Alvarez some big wins to make him more marketable before challenging for the title. As long as Alvarez was cool with it, why would the WBC object?

[BigStomps]

The facts are what they are regardless of what you choose to believe. Some people don't buy that we landed on the moon. There will always be a lunatic fringe.




WBC has always allowed step aside deals. Going back many decades. As long as the champion and challenger are both happy, the WBC typically doesn't interfere. Haymon was delaying the fight to get Alvarez some big wins to make him more marketable before challenging for the title. As long as Alvarez was cool with it, why would the WBC object?

Cause it's holding up the ****ing number 2 and number 3 contenders and so forth! If the number 1 contender keeps taking step aside fees then that just means the other contenders are left waiting with their thumb up their ass and never getting a title shot and an opportunity to fight for that piece of shet belt!
Explain that to me Einstein!
How is that fair for the other contenders??

[Sir_Didymus]

Good. Serves him right. He went into the ring that night knowing this already that he'd be stripped and STILL couldn't be bothered to put up a fight. I rarely say this but it's almost as if he had some hard to connect distant relative/friend place a large bet on Rigondeaux on quitting and named the exact round too. That's how highly I rate that QUIT.

[BigStomps]

The facts are what they are regardless of what you choose to believe. Some people don't buy that we landed on the moon. There will always be a lunatic fringe.




WBC has always allowed step aside deals. Going back many decades. As long as the champion and challenger are both happy, the WBC typically doesn't interfere. Haymon was delaying the fight to get Alvarez some big wins to make him more marketable before challenging for the title. As long as Alvarez was cool with it, why would the WBC object?

See what I'm telling you?? How the **** you gonna defend the WBC after they just made the Garcia-Rios fight a final eliminator fight?? Explain that to me!
The WBC is a ****ing joke so **** the WBC!

[future hendrixx]

good. with that pathetic and gutless quit job he should also be stripped of the fight purse. if he was paid then boxing condones fighters quitting with phanton injuries and barely taking any punishment. as pathetic as walters quitting was this was even worse. rigo is now a pariah. the guy cannot redeem himself from this. best move is retirement.

[leestarky]

that's a load of crap. the WBA should not be able to decide whether you keep the title or not if you win or lose a step aside fight. that fight was not even in the weight class. Also, you got a lot of dumb ass fans on here talking about he deserves it. He lost. Rigo knows he lost. He was too small. anyone could see that. Some people aren't satisfied until the fighter is in the hospital of broke or both.