Dumb argument that boxing fans love to make

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  • Thraxox
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    #11
    Originally posted by harwri008
    I need you to point to one poster that's ever called Lomachenko a one dimensional brawler.

    Your argument would have been much more effective if you didn't put Lomachenko in there.
    You know what I'm getting, being caucasian and not black. But what I'm saying is that NSB is full of racists.

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #12
      Originally posted by Thraxox
      You know what I'm getting, being caucasian and not black. But what I'm saying is that NSB is full of racists.
      There a lot people on here who resort to racism because they can't make coherent arguments.

      If someone make a comment against a certain boxer people assume it's because of racism but a lot of times it's just a criticism. Nothing more.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #13
        they say this cause they cant be honest and say they dont like the fighters skin colour

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        • Curt Henning
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          #14
          Originally posted by DramaShow
          they say this cause they cant be honest and say they dont like the fighters skin colour
          you really should be wiped off the face of the earth....or off the bum you cling to you ****stain

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          • Redd Foxx
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            #15
            You have to understand that it doesn't usually affect who they watch or actually like to watch. It affects interactions on here though. I like Golovkin but there's a plethora of douchebags that rail for him hard. When people troll you with half truths and a poor understanding of boxing, you're not going to be particularly kind in how you speak about this guy they worship. You might like that fighter, but the fan is so annoying that you're going to be antagonistic when arguing with that irrational fan.

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            • HeadBodyBodyBody
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              #16
              i gotta say, i am influenced by fans who matter. like if a respected boxer or trainer says, 'oh you gotta check out ricardo lopez - soundest fundamentals in the game', that affects my opinion of things. also, if someone presents a good argument for why certain boxers be rated above others (as is the case with every p4p list), that affects my opinions too. I wasn't really paying too much attention to Bud before he started appearing on people's p4p lists, for example

              But yeah, i get what OP is saying. some people don't seem to know what the hell they're talking about...

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              • wlad1111
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                #17
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                im sure by the end of this you will tell me "well thats just how it is all fanbases do that"......but thats simply not the whole truth of it

                golovkin fans simply dont want him held to the same standards as they hold other fighters to...or vice versa.....but you wont answer the biting questions i posed....youll just make some vague statement again about how all fanbases are guilty of what i said and skirt around them
                You are missing the entire argument. My argument is that regardless of how wrong and ****ty any fanbase is ,that should not effect ones judgement of the fighter himself unless that fighter openly supports those same ****ty views that his crazy fanbase does. I am sure there are Neo****s that like some of the bands that i like but unless those band members support ****s i am not gonna like their music any less.

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                • ShoulderRoll
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                  #18
                  It gets frustrating that Floyd Mayweather could do nothing right in the eyes of some fans, yet the fighters they like get labeled all-time greats despite not accomplishing even one third of what he did.

                  Pointing out their hypocrisy and double standards is only fair.

                  That doesn't have to reflect on the boxers themselves, though.

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                  • Curt Henning
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by wlad1111
                    You are missing the entire argument. My argument is that regardless of how wrong and ****ty any fanbase is ,that should not effect ones judgement of the fighter himself unless that fighter openly supports those same ****ty views that his crazy fanbase does. I am sure there are Neo****s that like some of the bands that i like but unless those band members support ****s i am not gonna like their music any less.
                    but the fighters career is actually theirs.....so when a fan of a fighter goes out of his way to bash the career and resume of other fighters while making excuses for their fighters actually being weaker...its not the same comparison

                    again...you used steakhouses but forget to mention the guy that is talking so highly of the steakhouse he likes is also going out of his way to bash steakhouses that have been around longer and have higher reviews

                    i dont actually hate golovkin...i even own a piece of his merchandise and have given him props on here...i admit hes good......but hes not a great...and hes not some guy that has come to save boxing and cares not about money but legacy.......thats what his fans have built him up as....then when he proved otherwise they changed their tune even after bashing others years ago for business moves.....all is not equal in your comparison.....but idc really...

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      It gets frustrating that Floyd Mayweather could do nothing right in the eyes of some fans, yet the fighters they like get labeled all-time greats despite not accomplishing even one third of what he did.

                      Pointing out their hypocrisy and double standards is only fair.

                      That doesn't have to reflect on the boxers themselves, though.
                      exactly

                      those that have seen me around here know ive said that ggg is very good...good for the sport....probably a very good guy and i respect his talent

                      but hes not all hes built up to be and his fans have tore down many more accomplished fighters while this guy can do no wrong

                      it has nothing to do with race...im a white male...and i dont knock kovalev and loma...i have respect for them.....im not a big fan of golovkins career though

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