Comments Thread For: Hearn: Let's See How Parker Reacts When Joshua Lands on Chin!

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Joshua was 2 to 5 and even a 2 to 1 favorite in some places that is NOT a clear favorite .

Think about what you're saying. You said most were picking Klitschko, yet by your own admission, Klitschko was a 2 to 1 underdog.

Doesn't make ANY sense. This is pathetic.

[jonnyc420]

But we weren't talking about sanctioning body rankings. We were talking about the major independent world rankings (TBRB, etc)

You can talk many ranking systems but come on guy you cant sit there and tell me anything other than Stiverne is average. I trust my eyes much more than BS ranking systems. Still does not change the fact that in 39 fights you can only pick this one. So what is the excuse for the turtle pace his career has been moved? I mean why no Klitschko? Why not even a Dylan Whyte for a career high payday? Lets hear some more excuses for this. We are talking 39 fights and we can only weed out this one average fighter stop wasting my time.

[juggernaut666]

Think about what you're saying. You said most were picking Klitschko, yet by your own admission, Klitschko was a 2 to 1 underdog.

Doesn't make ANY sense. This is pathetic.

Most were betting Klitchko thats WHY the odds came down as the fight got closer .It doesnt matter the favorite WAS established already ,you CANNOT make Klitchko the favorite no matter who bets on him ,but when odds go DOWN , it's bc the UNDER DOG is getting the bets for them .

Had the house decided to make Klitchko the favorite the odds would have went up against Joshua .

This is my last response to you on this thread ive exposed how much of a dummy you are ALL across the board on EVERYTHING !

[Deus]

But if you look at this title fights, are his opponents significantly worse than the opponents in Parker or AJ's title fights? No. So it's just haters *****ing for the sake of *****ing.

No they aren't, but again you are conveniently forgetting the quantity of fights which has great relevance considering the expectation is that the standard of opposition should increase.

Wilder has had twice the title fights as Joshua and Parker, yet his resume in title fights as you've indicated is similar to both Joshua's and Parker's. That's a problem, no matter how much you try and dress it up as not being one. It's an even bigger problem when Wilder himself is a loud mouth that continually talks himself up, because that simply makes people want to dislike him (just like people discredit Fury)... and there is clearly ammunition against him:

Joshua's 3rd title defence was a unification bout against Klitschko. Parker's 3rd title defence will be (unless something goes drastically wrong in final negotiations) a unification bout against Joshua. Wilder's 3rd title defence was Artur Spzilka.

Joshua's 5th title defence will be a unification bout against Parker. Wilder's 5th title defence was Gerald Washington.

It'll only be on Wilder's 7th title defence that he'll have faced a contender in Luis Ortiz.

Finally, before you go back to Povetkin and Ortiz pissing hot.. need I remind you that had Klitschko not been injured than Joshua would have thought him one fight earlier and had Hughie Fury not got injured Parker would most likely be facing Joshua one fight sooner so yes although circumstances have not been kind to Wilder circumstances have played their part against both of the other champions too.

[juggernaut666]

No they aren't, but again you are conveniently forgetting the quantity of fights which has great relevance considering the expectation is that the standard of opposition should increase.

Wilder has had twice the title fights as Joshua and Parker, yet his resume in title fights as you've indicated is similar to both Joshua's and Parker's. That's a problem, no matter how much you try and dress it up as not being one. It's an even bigger problem when Wilder himself is a loud mouth that continually talks himself up, because that simply makes people want to dislike him (just like people discredit Fury)... and there is clearly ammunition against him:

Joshua's 3rd title defence was a unification bout against Klitschko. Parker's 3rd title defence will be (unless something goes drastically wrong in final negotiations) a unification bout against Joshua. Wilder's 3rd title defence was Artur Spzilka.

Joshua's 5th title defence will be a unification bout against Parker. Wilder's 5th title defence was Gerald Washington.

It'll only be on Wilder's 7th title defence that he'll have faced a contender in Luis Ortiz.

Finally, before you go back to Povetkin and Ortiz pissing hot.. need I remind you that had Klitschko not been injured than Joshua would have thought him one fight earlier and had Hughie Fury not got injured Parker would most likely be facing Joshua one fight sooner so yes although circumstances have not been kind to Wilder circumstances have played their part against both of the other champions too.

Dont forget this WBC clown goes by the TRANSNATIONAL rankings and they don't rank Ortiz , therefore he gets NO credit !

BY HIS own admission Klitchko WAS ranked number one by the rankings HE goes by the SAME organization that he linked to me....As of May 2017 the rankings were ......

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Luis Ortiz
4. Deontay Wilder
5 . Parker

These were March 2017 rankings in HIS system......

1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Luis Ortiz
4. Deontay Wilder
5 . Parker

"It's actually Wilder that has never fought a top guy. His big win was a very very inactive old fighter in Stiverne . "

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Yet continues to claim Joshua did not fight a top or ranked opponent . He is a complete idiot !

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You can talk many ranking systems but come on guy you cant sit there and tell me anything other than Stiverne is average.

Is average? Perhaps. Was average a few years ago? That's rewriting history. Average fighters don't win the most prestigious championship in the history of boxing.

I trust my eyes much more than BS ranking systems.

So how much money did you bet on Wilder to beat Stiverne then? As average as Stiverne was, surely you bet your life savings?

Still does not change the fact that in 39 fights you can only pick this one.

He had a lot of quick knockouts early in his career and essentially no amateur background. Of course he's going to need a lot of fights before challenging for the title. Look how many fights he needed to have just to get himself to 50 professional rounds.

So what is the excuse for the turtle pace his career has been moved?

Why does he need an excuse? He's ready to fight AJ right now. AJ's not available, so he's fighting King Kong. What's the problem?

I mean why no Klitschko?

Because Klitschko lost before they could fight. Wilder was hyping up a showdown with Klitschko after he fulfilled his mandatory against Fury, but then Klitschko got upset.

Why not even a Dylan Whyte for a career high payday?

King Kong is far more dangerous and highly regarded than Whyte. Why are you criticizing Wilder for taking the tougher fight?

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No they aren't, but again you are conveniently forgetting the quantity of fights which has great relevance considering the expectation is that the standard of opposition should increase.

Who was he supposed to fight as champion that he hasn't fought? Povetkin and King Kong where the baddest dudes out there. He agreed to fight both and he's agreed to fight King Kong again.

He tried to unify with Parker this year, but Arum blocked the fight.

He's trying desperately to fight AJ later this year.

What else is this guy supposed to do?

[jonnyc420]

Is average? Perhaps. Was average a few years ago? That's rewriting history. Average fighters don't win the most prestigious championship in the history of boxing.




So how much money did you bet on Wilder to beat Stiverne then? As average as Stiverne was, surely you bet your life savings?




He had a lot of quick knockouts early in his career and essentially no amateur background. Of course he's going to need a lot of fights before challenging for the title. Look how many fights he needed to have just to get himself to 50 professional rounds.




Why does he need an excuse? He's ready to fight AJ right now. AJ's not available, so he's fighting King Kong. What's the problem?




Because Klitschko lost before they could fight. Wilder was hyping up a showdown with Klitschko after he fulfilled his mandatory against Fury, but then Klitschko got upset.




King Kong is far more dangerous and highly regarded than Whyte. Why are you criticizing Wilder for taking the tougher fight?

Asking for a 50/50 split is hardly being ready that is asking for something he knows won't happen. He can't draw he is virtually unknown. 39 fights vs 39 bums will do that to a man's career. It is clear you have nothing more than excuses. Thanks for wasting my time with nonsense.

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Asking for a 50/50 split is hardly being ready that is asking for something he knows won't happen.

Parker asked for 50/50 too and that fight is still happening. It's called negotiating. Leave the negotiating to the professionals. When AJ wants the fight, it'll happen.

He can't draw he is virtually unknown.

You're lying. He's defended his title on network television with millions of viewers. He's one of Showtime's biggest ratings draws and one of PBCs best ticket sellers.

Is he Canelo level? No. But few are. Wilder is a bigger draw and more well known than 99% of the boxers in the US. Just because he's not the #1 star in US boxing doesn't mean he's "virtually unknown." The dude has 600,000 followers on instagram. He has a fanbase. A much bigger fanbase than most.

If Wilder is an unknown, it means everybody other than Canelo, GGG, etc are unknown. If that's your definition of unknown, fine.

[Deus]

As of May 2017 the rankings were ......

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Luis Ortiz
4. Deontay Wilder
5 . Parker

"It's actually AJ that has never fought a top guy. His big win was a very very inactive old fighter who hadn't won a fight in years, so he was not a consensus #2 or #3 guy heading into that fight. "

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Yet continues to claim Joshua did not fight a top or ranked opponent . He is a complete idiot !

Didn't realise that TBRB actually put Klitschko back in their rankings after the Joshua fight... and put him back in at number 2. That's quite ironic considering.