Comments Thread For: Nelson: Joshua Should Fight Parker, Povetkin or Pulev, Then Haye

[1hourRun]

I agree with everyone in this thread, Deontay "Bronze-Bomber' Wilder is the most feared HW of all time.

[Rubber Ducky]

Hearn really isn’t that clever he got duped by the boxing voice FFS.
He clearly contradicted himself, I can’t remember exactly what was said so I can’t quote him directly, but he suggested AJ was offered as a part of the Whyte deal- that was exposed as a lie by Wilder and Finkel.
He said he contacted Wilder’s manager and had been trying to make the fight- that was a blatant lie, and Shelly Finkel even turned up on the show and schooled Hearn.
There were loads of things he said which were utter bollocks.
Watch the interview again man, Hearn gets exposed for the liar he is. It’s not the first time and it won’t be the last

Just re-listened to the interview and Hearn never contradicts himself. Hearn clearly states that all he did was offer them the Whyte fight and then they returned his offer by asking them for a guarantee for Joshua if they fought Whyte. Hearn then says that the Joshua fight is a separate deal that has to be discussed separately.

Where Finkel disagrees is that he said he has an Email from Hearn saying that Hearn offered the Joshua fight if they fought Whyte first. Nobody has ever seen this email and it's irrelevant anyway as clearly Hearn has stated Whyte and Joshua are two separate fights.

Hearn then says he's in New York and asks Finkel if they can meet to discuss the fight which they apparently did.

Now if you believe everything Finkel said then of course you might think Hearn was being contradictory but in reality we have no real proof as to who was lying and who was being truthful without that email.

[Scary_canary]

Povetkin won't fight AJ... His promotor Andrey Ryabinsky already said that Povetkin is not ready for AJ at all.

What a joke that is, the guys what 38, former world champ, but he's not ready lol

[Rubber Ducky]

What do you mean he can't be ranked? Of course a champion can be ranked by another sanctioning body, also a unification does not supersede a mandatory if the person they choose to face is not ranked by the same sanction body. So, unless a committee agrees to instate Wilder as a mandatory AJ has to face his mandatory first, it's kind of the whole point of the system, after all others have been paying their fees and getting ranked high enough and then someone else just comes in a trumps them, it wouldn't be fair. However, because of the time limit system, it means in between mandatory defences or by asking special permissions AJ can face Wilder between mandatory or Wilder can simply get ranked high enough to be a mandatory...which as I said before will occur if he beat Ortiz.

If you look at the rankings of the sanctioning bodies you'll see they don't rank another sanctioning bodies champion. Joshua isn't ranked by the WBC and Wilder isn't ranked by the WBA or IBF.

So for either of them to be a mandatory for the other they would have to relinquish their belts.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Hearn said that he had been trying to contact Finkel to talk to him about the fight, and Finkel then phoned in to the show. How is that exposing Hearn as a liar?

The host then cut Hearn out of the convo and spent the rest of the show talking to Wilder, Finkel and Tyson Fury.

There are 2 sides to every argument. You are assuming that, just because Wilder or Finkel disagree with something Heard says .. that means Hearn has been exposed as liar.

And you say I'm biased?

It was pretty clear Hearn was lying he said he’d contacted Wilders team (via email I think he said) and Finkel called him out on it cause it was BS. As soon as Finkel jumped on the line Hearn started to backtrack.
And the host didn’t cut him out Hearn went missing for like 10 minutes probably to compose himself cause he’d realised he’d been caught out and had massively ****ed up. He came back later on, the host kept checking if he was still there.
I have no bias whatsoever I’m just calling what I saw/heard.
If you actually believe Hearn is telling the truth more fool you.

[Clubber Pac]

This proves that Nelson can no longer be counted upon to provide objective analysis on AJ, he has way to much skin in the game.

Like many of Joshua's fans, they want him to fight the softest opponents possible, it has become about celebrating a HW champion from the UK, not actually taking risk.

It's sad, but so be it, he will lose credibility if he fights BS opponents after Parker.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

What do you mean he can't be ranked? Of course a champion can be ranked by another sanctioning body, also a unification does not supersede a mandatory if the person they choose to face is not ranked by the same sanction body. So, unless a committee agrees to instate Wilder as a mandatory AJ has to face his mandatory first, it's kind of the whole point of the system, after all others have been paying their fees and getting ranked high enough and then someone else just comes in a trumps them, it wouldn't be fair. However, because of the time limit system, it means in between mandatory defences or by asking special permissions AJ can face Wilder between mandatory or Wilder can simply get ranked high enough to be a mandatory...which as I said before will occur if he beat Ortiz.

Nope your wrong. Another champion CANNOT be ranked by another sanctioning body, certainly with the big four anyway. And wrong again a unification can supersede a mandatory, go check their rules.

[Kezzer]

Imagine if AJ were American? These Wilder fans might actually not argue that the moon is actually a Japanese car!

It's clear to anyone who listens to Hearn that he has said (not just once, including the interview above, but on many occasions) - fight whyte and build up your profile and it puts us in a much better position to do the Wilder Joshua fight. That is common sense. Wilder fights one of his toughest opponents, definitely the most credible, gets his highest paycheck by far, and builds up a U.K. Audience. Why any wilder fan doesn't see logic in that is beyond me, it makes sense even without a joshua follow up.

Wilder Joshua is hearns preferred matchup in the summer , he has stated it on many occasions , if he doesn't mean it then he really is expecting a kicking from the fans, he is unpopular enough with U.K. Fans as it is! The sticking point as always will be the cut. You can quite easily see a two match deal, summer in wembley, winter in vegas - but it will depend on Wilder - will he allow a sensible % deal to be made or not? For all hearns criticism he does get deals done, as is obvious to all he has overpaid many to fight Joshua, Martin and Parker the obvious two , remember when Joshua had no titles he accepted less than 10% of the pot to take a shot at the IBF. even klitschko deal was done fairly quickly and I would imagine that deal was far more complex with him having far more revenue coming to the table than other opponents, such as wilder and Parker who both bring barely anything currently.

Do the wilder fans just not get that U.K. Fights (hw in particular) is actually bigger than America at the moment - it's rare in history but when it happens you just have to accept it. If wilder can ever turn around his popularity then things will change but until then he brings only simular revenue to Parker.

[Sickmerch1990]

The wilder fights done the pleb demanding a 50/50 got no chance brings less than parker to the table fury fight is the big one if he gets fit hayes washed up joshua kos him easy

[sportbuddha]

If you look at the rankings of the sanctioning bodies you'll see they don't rank another sanctioning bodies champion. Joshua isn't ranked by the WBC and Wilder isn't ranked by the WBA or IBF.

So for either of them to be a mandatory for the other they would have to relinquish their belts.

Well you learn something new every day, as they say, thanks for that. But the other champion surely isn’t the mandatory, that’s never been how it’s played out in the past, so i can’t see how a unification supersedes other mandatory obligations