Comments Thread For: Hearn admits to overpaying Martin to secure IBF title for Joshua

[Robbie Barrett]

Hey Robbie, could you please tell us what your experience is working in this industry that would give you the knowledge and insight to determine the value of the fight?

If it was a $2 million fight, Hearn wouldn't have been offering so much. Use your noggin...

If Wilder wins, he gets 73% of the bid.

If the fight is worth so little, why was Hearn offering so much? Why not just wait until the purse bid and bid $2 million and win?

The facts don't support your premise.

Frank Warren and many others would easily bid more than $2 million.

I said to anyone else. Because anyone else won't have the Sky Sports machine behind them. Hearn has exclusive rights to Sky Sports boxing PPV.

That fight without Sky Sports PPV makes peanuts.

Why the **** would Frank Warren pay more than 2 mil to help build a rival promoter fighter/fight with Joshua.

Stop pretending your account is run by insiders. You're thick as ****.

No promoter is going to bid over 4 mil for that fight to pay Wilder the 3 mil Hearn would. Don't forget Hearn was also going to give Wilder the US tv rights too that'd be another mil. Wilder clean ducked Whyte.

[Bronx2245]

Wilder said he'd come to England for Whyte if Hearn agreed to his unrealistic ridiculous demand.


How much would he have wanted for a Joshua fight in the Whyte contract? 50%?

Price himself out of 2 fights with 1 demand.


There was no good reason to turn down the Whyte fight. It was almost triple the money he makes usually.


He avoided Whyte.

Please see post # 13! Couldn't have said it better myself!

[Bronx2245]

Wilder would smash Whyte.

It's an odd one because Wilder would have got a career high payday by some distance for fighting Whyte. Whyte is really domestic level. It would also raise his profile in the UK too. It would be a worthwhile fight for many reasons.

I kind of understand Wilder though, he's a champion and one of the top fighters in the division. If he is serious about wanting the AJ fight, he must think why should he have to fight a lower level fighter just to get a unification, which wouldn't even be certain to happen. I understand Wilder's stance, i'd want something guaranteed too.

It's a bit of a dilemma really. It's a lot of money to fight an average fighter but then he's also already dancing to Hearn's tune by doing what he suggests, which isn't really good for Wilder if he wants a strong stance in the negotiations for an AJ fight.

I'm not a Wilder fan but no way he is afraid of Whyte. He was about to fight ortiz and Povetkin, i don't think he has much issue about actually getting into a ring with Whyte, a fighter who couldn't lace their boots.

Well said! Asking a champion to fight a lesser fighter in your stable, in your country, without any assurances of fighting AJ next, is very disrespectful, especially while AJ is fighting Takam, for goodness sake! Glad to see Wilder is now fighting Ortiz! Maybe Hearn will let Wilder fight Big Baby Miller in Brooklyn next?

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Ok Al ... now get up off your lazy arse and start doing something to justify that claim.

Wilder doesn't just have Al. He has Shelly Finkel too, probably the most successful manager in the history of heavyweight boxing.

[yankees7448]

Because putting Joshua on the contract is an unrealistic demand? You can't have a Joshua fight on the contract, until you've negotiated a Joshua fight and Wilder wants 50% for a Joshua fight. Pricing himself out.

And Eddie Hearn demanding a fellow champion fight Dillan Whyte in order to maybe get a shot at Anthony Joshua isn't a way of negotiating his guy out? I don't see Joseph Parker being made to jump through hoops to build his profile in England before fighting Anthony Joshua.

[Bronx2245]

He was forced to sign to fight Povetkin and Ortiz. Povetkin was mandatory and it's no coincidence a few months after signing with Haymon Ortiz got a Wilder shot.

I'm wondering why Ortiz didn't get a shot at AJ when Ortiz signed with Matchroom!

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...tchroom-boxing

[yankees7448]

Well said! Asking a champion to fight a lesser fighter in your stable, in your country, without any assurances of fighting AJ next, is very disrespectful, especially while AJ is fighting Takam, for goodness sake! Glad to see Wilder is now fighting Ortiz! Maybe Hearn will let Wilder fight Big Baby Miller in Brooklyn next?

Miller is signed with Hearn? Didn't know that. He's going to get saved for Joshua. I see Wilder getting Breazeale next if he beats Ortiz. I just hope Breazeale beats someone worthwhile so that there is a justification beyond bad blood for the fight.

[Robbie Barrett]

I'm wondering why Ortiz didn't get a shot at AJ when Ortiz signed with Matchroom!

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...tchroom-boxing

Ortiz was mandatory he was guaranteed a shot. He chose to take the fight with wilder that wouldn't make him 1/10 the money. Why would he do that? Because he liked his chances against Wilder more imo.

[yankees7448]

I said to anyone else. Because anyone else won't have the Sky Sports machine behind them. Hearn has exclusive rights to Sky Sports boxing PPV.

No promoter is going to bid over 4 mil for that fight to pay Wilder the 3 mil Hearn would. Don't forget Hearn was also going to give Wilder the US tv rights too that'd be another mil. Wilder clean ducked Whyte.

He didn't duck Whyte. He chose to fight a better opponent than fighting Anthony Joshua's sloppy seconds in that guys backyard on the off chance that Hearn might let him fight Joshua next. He had to settle for a rematch with the undeserving Bermaine Stiverne to fulfill his mandatory obligations when Luis Ortiz failed a drug test shortly before the fight. Why wasn't Joseph Parker made to fight Dillan Whyte in England to build his profile first? Could it be because he's viewed as a much lesser threat than Wilder.

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I said to anyone else. Because anyone else won't have the Sky Sports machine behind them. Hearn has exclusive rights to Sky Sports boxing PPV.

Why would Hearn bid against himself? If it's a $2 million fight, and if Wilder makes so little, why wasn't Hearn able to make the fight happen for $2 million? Is it possible you have absolutely no idea how the boxing industry works?

Why the **** would Frank Warren pay more than 2 mil to help build a rival promoter fighter/fight with Joshua.

Frank would gladly pay $2 million for the fight because he'd make millions at that price. You're the one that claimed it's a $2 million fight. There are at least a dozen promoters that would gladly buy the fight at that price even though they had no vested interest in either side.


[QUOTE]Stop pretending your account is run by insiders. You're thick as ****.

Nobody is pretending anything other than you pretending to have any knowledge or experience that would allow you to have any idea what a fight is worth.

Wilder clean ducked Whyte.

Who would be the betting favorite, Whyte or King Kong? How can you duck someone when the fight you're taking instead is against someone the entire boxing world considers the tougher fight?