Can someone explain to aboutfkntime

[aboutfkntime]

Yes, I consider the WBC world middleweight championship to be genuine and authentic

casual-fans just love that ABC shht, don't they ?

casual-fans should have bounties on their heads

[GGG Gloveking]

let's not forget the REAL reason why the Golov-ladies have decided to continually embarrass themselves.....


* happy to give Rosado a catchweight

* happy to give Brook a catchweight

* happy to fight everyone else at 154.....





everyone EXCEPT for Cotto and Canelo lol

give it up clowns

This seems to be your main go-to post here, so let's address it real quick. It talks a lot about catchweight. Let's talk about catchweight.

What would you call someone who competes below the upper limit of a division, if they're not genuine?

umm..... that is called fake

what do you usually call something that is not genuine ?

So, why are we still here talking about catchweight?

[GGG Gloveking]

casual-fans just love that ABC shht, don't they ?

casual-fans should have bounties on their heads

I need a bounty on mine, you need a brain in yours. We all have needs

[aboutfkntime]

This seems to be your main go-to post here, so let's address it real quick. It talks a lot about catchweight. Let's talk about catchweight.



So, why are we still here talking about catchweight?

1) that video, does not mention catchweights at all

it quotes Golovkin saying that he is willing and able to fight at 154..... and then throwing his hands in the air out of frustration, because "nobody will step up"

hilarious that you quoted it

2) my opinion regarding catchweights did not prevent Golovkin from offering a catchweight to Rosado and Brook

so, maybe you need to ask him..... ?

3) if YOU think that those fights would have been fake with a catchweight, then how fake were they without one?

4) you stated that the 164lb demand on Ward was fair..... so, don't be a two-faced cvnt..... willya?

5) casual-fans do not get to ask questions..... and if you think that Canelo became a genuine middleweight champion when he beat little old faded 153lb Cotto..... then you are most definitely a casual-fan

[aboutfkntime]

I need a bounty on mine, you need a brain in yours. We all have needs

this subject..... is about your NEED to embarrass yourself by making childish excuse to justify why Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally shat the bed over weight..... AGAIN!!

if you did not have that NEED..... then Andre Ward would not have been branded a liar..... and you would genuinely be asking yourself why Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refused to negotiate on weight with 153lb Cotto and 155lb Canelo..... despite the fact that he was willing to fight no-hopers at catchweight, and then ran around calling out JMW's at 154


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[GGG Gloveking]

1) that video, does not mention catchweights at all

it quotes Golovkin saying that he is willing and able to fight at 154..... and then throwing his hands in the air out of frustration, because "nobody will step up"

hilarious that you quoted it

2) my opinion regarding catchweights did not prevent Golovkin from offering a catchweight to Rosado and Brook

so, maybe you need to ask him..... ?

3) if YOU think that those fights would have been fake with a catchweight, then how fake were they without one?

4) you stated that the 164lb demand on Ward was fair..... so, don't be a two-faced cvnt..... willya?

5) casual-fans do not get to ask questions..... and if you think that Canelo became a genuine middleweight champion when he beat little old faded 153lb Cotto..... then you are most definitely a casual-fan

1. The video does not talk about catchweight, but you do in your accompanying text. Over and over, no catchweight for Canelo and Cotto, but catchweight offer for Rosado, catchweight offer for Brook. You say catchweight, what, 3 or 4 times in your post? So, I thought you were talking about a catchweight.

2. Not sure what Rosado and Brook, guys who never held a MW belt, have to do with the discussion. I'm regards to catchweight offers, I recall he made one to Ward and you dismissed that so why would you treat any catchweight offer to Canelo differently?

3. By your definition, fake is when a contest occurs below the division maximum. So, if the catchweight is eliminated and held at the maximum, then it is a genuine contest by your definition, at least from the perspective of the challenger. Better it be genuine for one, than fake for both.

4. This one is contingent on my parameters regarding catchweight, not yours that we are working to establish clearly. I believe if two champs from separate divisions fight, then it should be at the intermediate weight. Using your definitions, GGG would have to move up to 168, fight at the full 168 for an undetermined period of time against seasoned 168 fighters, before a fight with Ward would have been considered "genuine". This process may have taken years to accomplish under your guidelines.

5. It's ok. We understand and will let you ask questions anyway. I mean hey, that's the whole point of this thread

[aboutfkntime]

1. The video does not talk about catchweight, but you do in your accompanying text. Over and over, no catchweight for Canelo and Cotto, but catchweight offer for Rosado, catchweight offer for Brook. You say catchweight, what, 3 or 4 times in your post? So, I thought you were talking about a catchweight.

no you did not, this subject..... you knew that I was talking about YOUR NEED to continually embarrass yourself by making childish excuse to justify why Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally shat the bed over weight..... AGAIN!!

2. Not sure what Rosado and Brook, guys who never held a MW belt, have to do with the discussion. I'm regards to catchweight offers, I recall he made one to Ward and you dismissed that so why would you treat any catchweight offer to Canelo differently?

why answer a question with a question ?

YOU objected to catchweights..... despite the fact that Golovkin offered catchweights to Rosado/Brook..... and despite the fact that he demanded one from Andre Ward

so, any reason for that two-faced question ?

3. By your definition, fake is when a contest occurs below the division maximum. So, if the catchweight is eliminated and held at the maximum, then it is a genuine contest by your definition, at least from the perspective of the challenger. Better it be genuine for one, than fake for both.

so, according to you, the 164 demand on Ward was fake ?

4. This one is contingent on my parameters regarding catchweight, not yours that we are working to establish clearly. I believe if two champs from separate divisions fight, then it should be at the intermediate weight. Using your definitions, GGG would have to move up to 168, fight at the full 168 for an undetermined period of time against seasoned 168 fighters, before a fight with Ward would have been considered "genuine". This process may have taken years to accomplish under your guidelines.

I AGREE !!

which is why Golovkin should have shut his ****-warmer about 168, and why you should shut yours now

5. It's ok. We understand and will let you ask questions anyway. I mean hey, that's the whole point of this thread

I did not run around calling a guy who had never weighed more than 155, and who had never faced a middleweight opponent..... a middleweight

your problem is, you need to keep it real ALL the time..... not just when it suits Golovkin

you acknowledged that Golovkin would have been wise to adapt to the weight before looking at Ward, like Ward did with Kovalev..... but then you completely deny opportunity for Canelo with Golovkin

truth be known, Canelo should have had 1-2 more fights at 160 before facing GGG..... but, oh well

you clowns think that Canelo delayed the fight, despite the fact that any delay was caused by Golovkin's unwillingness to be a man of his word..... and yet, Canelo stepped up and fought Golovkin in his first fight at middleweight because GGG shat the bed over weight, just like he did with Ward/Cotto

this is ******ity

[aboutfkntime]

blaming Canelo, because he did not want to hand the unproven Golovkin an advantage..... when Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refused to negotiate on weight, despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with no-hopers..... is ******ed

that is just as ******ed as when 30,000,000 ***wit's blamed Mayweather because Pacquiao inexplicably refused random blood tests

you blamed the guy who asked, and ignored the guy who refused

the same with Mr " anyone from 154-168 "..... the guy who was willing to fight Brook/Rosado at catchweight, and who called out JMW's at 154..... you blamed the guy who asked, and totally ignored the guy who (bizarrely) refused

***wit's

[aboutfkntime]

1. The video does not talk about catchweight, but you do in your accompanying text. Over and over, no catchweight for Canelo and Cotto, but catchweight offer for Rosado, catchweight offer for Brook. You say catchweight, what, 3 or 4 times in your post? So, I thought you were talking about a catchweight.

2. Not sure what Rosado and Brook, guys who never held a MW belt, have to do with the discussion. I'm regards to catchweight offers, I recall he made one to Ward and you dismissed that so why would you treat any catchweight offer to Canelo differently?

3. By your definition, fake is when a contest occurs below the division maximum. So, if the catchweight is eliminated and held at the maximum, then it is a genuine contest by your definition, at least from the perspective of the challenger. Better it be genuine for one, than fake for both.

4. This one is contingent on my parameters regarding catchweight, not yours that we are working to establish clearly. I believe if two champs from separate divisions fight, then it should be at the intermediate weight. Using your definitions, GGG would have to move up to 168, fight at the full 168 for an undetermined period of time against seasoned 168 fighters, before a fight with Ward would have been considered "genuine". This process may have taken years to accomplish under your guidelines.

5. It's ok. We understand and will let you ask questions anyway. I mean hey, that's the whole point of this thread

lets find out what we are dealing with here.....

explain why Golovkin totally refused to negotiate on weight with the SUPERSTARS Cotto and Canelo...... but was more than happy to offer a catchweight to Rosado/Brook?

now explain why Golovkin stated that he is ready and willing to fight a JMW at 154, but nobody will step up..... AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto Canelo?

there is only one correct answer, it is the same to both questions..... and it is the ONLY answer that will prevent you from looking like an excuse-making ****head

go !

[GGG Gloveking]

let's not forget the REAL reason why the Golov-ladies have decided to continually embarrass themselves.....


* happy to give Rosado a catchweight

* happy to give Brook a catchweight

* happy to fight everyone else at 154.....





everyone EXCEPT for Cotto and Canelo lol

give it up clowns

no you did not, this subject..... you knew that I was talking about YOUR NEED to continually embarrass yourself by making childish excuse to justify why Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally shat the bed over weight..... AGAIN!!

Your post is above. You repeatedly mention catchweight in your bullet points but now tell me it's not about catchweight. Ok...

why answer a question with a question ?

YOU objected to catchweights..... despite the fact that Golovkin offered catchweights to Rosado/Brook..... and despite the fact that he demanded one from Andre Ward

so, any reason for that two-faced question ?

I didn't just answer a question with a question. You just don't like the question and don't want to answer it. You're the one with the seeming contradiction. You want a catchweight for champs in the same division, but not one for two different divisions. Thats odd.

so, according to you, the 164 demand on Ward was fake?

No. That's according to your definitions which we are trying to clearly establish

I AGREE !!

which is why Golovkin should have shut his ****-warmer about 168, and why you should shut yours now

Are you agreeing with me, that ggg-ward should have been at 164? Or are you just agreeing with yourself?

I did not run around calling a guy who had never weighed more than 155, and who had never faced a middleweight opponent..... a middleweight

No. You've been calling a guy who exceeds the JMW limit, fighting guys that exceeded the JMW limit...a JMW?! Thats just ******.

your problem is, you need to keep it real ALL the time..... not just when it suits Golovkin

The way I see it, it's your perspective that seems to change when talking about ggg-ward and ggg-canelo. One is supposed to offer one a catchweight, but when a catchweight is offered the other way, it's no good. Ok....

you acknowledged that Golovkin would have been wise to adapt to the weight before looking at Ward, like Ward did with Kovalev..... but then you completely deny opportunity for Canelo with Golovkin

I'm guessing here you're talking about where I applied YOUR definition of genuine to GGG moving up. That's your definition, that a boxer has to take years to acclimate to a new division. Off on a tangent, how many "genuine" divisions did Pac and Floyd move up?

truth be known, Canelo should have had 1-2 more fights at 160 before facing GGG..... but, oh well

Truth be known, Canelo has ample time to adjust to the weight. He chose guys like Khan instead

this is ******ity

I agree