Can someone explain to aboutfkntime

[aboutfkntime]

In honesty, I think you guys are talking about completely different things. I haven't seen everything that was typed on this, but this is how it seems to me:


Looks like you (shape up) are trying to say that A BOUT which has the participants weigh in at 154.1 is in the middleweight division.

Seems that ABTFKNTIME is saying that just because A BOXER weighs in for that middleweight bout at 154.1, even repeatedly, that doesn't make THE BOXER a genuine middleweight.


Do you see the difference? I think on one side you are talking about the actual classification of the bout, and on the other is the classification of the fighter. I think you are both right and just talking about completely different things.

that is possibly true, good point..... but this topic does not concern the bout, it concerns the fighter..... these fukwit's have decided to classify Canelo as a middleweight, in order to justify why Hypekin shat the bed over weight

THEY are referring to a fighter, by the "technical" classification of the bout..... which is horribly ignorant, if not horribly dishonest..... these idiots have even referred to Cotto/Brook as middleweights

most casual-fans are excuse-making ****heads, especially if they cannot keep it real..... check out TonyGE's reply to my A/B question, what an ass-hole

[aboutfkntime]

this topic..... is utter stupidity, and is only being pushed by a handful of try-hard Golovkin fanboys..... Shape Up, kafkod, TonyGE, that GGGloveking idiot, and a few others

this is a breakdown of the ENTIRE argument.....



The Cause:
the failed negotiations between Canelo/Golovkin in 2016

1) Golovkin ran around for FIVE YEARS saying that he can beat "anyone from 154-168", he even specifically promised to fight Canelo at 154.....

Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....
http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-a...4/15398?var=no

2) Canelo..... being an entitled diva who was prepared to exploit his position, and his understanding of the sport..... demanded that fight at 155

3) Golovkin..... being full-of-shht, and not wanting to have his hype-train derailed, totally refused..... he offered Rosado/Brook a catchweight, but totally refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... bizarrely, Golovkin then stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody will step up

4) Golovkin's idiot fanbase, in their wisdom..... rather than calling out Golovkin for his lies, inconsistencies, and bizarre refusal to negotiate on weight with superstars despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with no-hopers..... decided to re-label 155 Canelo as a middleweight, in an effort to remove the egg from both of Golovkin's face's



The killer:
when Canelo fought Liam Smith at 154 to win the WBO JMW title, that "Canelo is a middleweight" nonsense should have stopped there and then..... anyone with half-a-brain should have realized that referring to Canelo as a middleweight was try-hard fanboy rubbish..... but, some did not



The bottom line:

FACT: anyone who thinks that Cotto was a genuine middleweight..... is "special"

FACT: anyone who refers to a fighter who has never weighed more than 155, as a genuine middleweight..... is even more "special"

the Golovkin krewe just looooove calling me a hater, which is just another excuse-making label, like "middleweight" was..... but they really have tagged/bagged themselves by peddling that rubbish

can you say..... dumbass casual fan ? lol



FACT: a genuine middleweight does TWO things..... he prepares to weigh-in at 160, in order to fight a middleweight opponent.....

well, Canelo had never done either of those things until he fought Golovkin..... which makes casual fans as dumb as a rock

[Shape up]

which word would you prefer ?..... fake ?

you don't spend too much time thinking before you type

inadvertently, you finally got it right..... referring to a fighter who weighs 154.1 as a "middleweight"..... is not genuine, it is "fake".....

so, stop being so stupid..... you excuse-making muppet

If they make the weight, how are they fake, do you always feel the need to defend fighters who have ducked using a CW to do so, it was a pure duck, there was a thread on here with an interview from fishnets basically saying they were avoiding ggg but here you are talking shlt and defending canelo like the good little fan girl you are

[aboutfkntime]

If they make the weight, how are they fake, do you always feel the need to defend fighters who have ducked using a CW to do so, it was a pure duck, there was a thread on here with an interview from fishnets basically saying they were avoiding ggg but here you are talking shlt and defending canelo like the good little fan girl you are

first..... you were stupid enough to call a guy who had never weighed more than 155, a genuine middleweight

second..... you were stupid enough to call a guy who weighs 153, a genuine middleweight

third..... you were stupid enough to call Kell Brook, a genuine middleweight..... you DUMB fuk

and then..... you attempted to tell me that Canelo was a SMW who dropped a division to fight Golovkin loooool

get help !

I OFFICIALLY object to sharing the planet with you

excuse-making muppet

[john l]

In honesty, I think you guys are talking about completely different things. I haven't seen everything that was typed on this, but this is how it seems to me:


Looks like you (shape up) are trying to say that A BOUT which has the participants weigh in at 154.1 is in the middleweight division.

Seems that ABTFKNTIME is saying that just because A BOXER weighs in for that middleweight bout at 154.1, even repeatedly, that doesn't make THE BOXER a genuine middleweight.


Do you see the difference? I think on one side you are talking about the actual classification of the bout, and on the other is the classification of the fighter. I think you are both right and just talking about completely different things.

Sounds fine to me buy not sure why you quoted me.But seems like a reasonable way to find common ground for those guys.

[Shape up]

first..... you were stupid enough to call a guy who had never weighed more than 155, a genuine middleweight

second..... you were stupid enough to call a guy who weighs 153, a genuine middleweight

third..... you were stupid enough to call Kell Brook, a genuine middleweight..... you DUMB fuk

and then..... you attempted to tell me that Canelo was a SMW who dropped a division to fight Golovkin loooool

get help !

I OFFICIALLY object to sharing the planet with you

excuse-making muppet

First of all, did canelo weigh more than 155 when he fought JCC, YES so there is your first lie, second, when did I call a 153 fighter a middleweight, I stipulated there is no minimum weight and if someone below the weight wants to fight in that division then good luck to them, your second lie, third, if kell brook comes to a weigh in and weighs 159lb, is he a WW or a MW at that weight, would he be allowed to fight a WW if he weighed in at 159, no, so in that case is he a WW, no, you can't argue with logic, you keep saying put your calculator away, you need to get yours out

[aboutfkntime]

Sounds fine to me buy not sure why you quoted me.But seems like a reasonable way to find common ground for those guys.

there is no common-ground

because, this topic does not concern the bout, it concerns the fighter.....

these fukwit's have decided to classify Canelo as a middleweight, in order to justify why Hypekin shat the bed over weight

THEY are referring to a fighter, by the "technical" classification of the bout..... which is horribly ignorant, if not horribly dishonest..... these idiots have even referred to Cotto/Brook as middleweights

[aboutfkntime]

First of all, did canelo weigh more than 155 when he fought JCC, YES so there is your first lie, second, when did I call a 153 fighter a middleweight, I stipulated there is no minimum weight and if someone below the weight wants to fight in that division then good luck to them, your second lie, third, if kell brook comes to a weigh in and weighs 159lb, is he a WW or a MW at that weight, would he be allowed to fight a WW if he weighed in at 159, no, so in that case is he a WW, no, you can't argue with logic, you keep saying put your calculator away, you need to get yours out

this is why you are a fkn idiot..... and you know it

there is no common-ground

this topic does not concern the bout, it concerns the fighter.....

YOU fukwit's have decided to classify Canelo as a middleweight, in order to justify why Hypekin shat the bed over weight

YOU are referring to a fighter, by the "technical" classification of the bout..... which is horribly ignorant, if not horribly dishonest..... you clowns have even referred to Cotto/Brook as middleweights

let's face it, you have embarrassed yourself

[Shape up]

this is why you are a fkn idiot..... and you know it

there is no common-ground

this topic does not concern the bout, it concerns the fighter.....

YOU fukwit's have decided to classify Canelo as a middleweight, in order to justify why Hypekin shat the bed over weight

YOU are referring to a fighter, by the "technical" classification of the bout..... which is horribly ignorant, if not horribly dishonest..... you clowns have even referred to Cotto/Brook as middleweights

let's face it, you have embarrassed yourself

I haven't embarrassed myself, tell me where anything I wrote in the post above was wrong, your problem is that you can't handle the harsh reality that your a fucwit that has made certain statements and now your trying to back them up but you can't, crap like it's not about the bout, it's about the fighter, yeah why don't we let kell brook fight at 159 against all the other welterweight, because he isn't a GENUINE MW, your a ****head

[john l]

there is no common-ground

because, this topic does not concern the bout, it concerns the fighter.....

these fukwit's have decided to classify Canelo as a middleweight, in order to justify why Hypekin shat the bed over weight

THEY are referring to a fighter, by the "technical" classification of the bout..... which is horribly ignorant, if not horribly dishonest..... these idiots have even referred to Cotto/Brook as middleweights

Yea gotta agree just because a guy fought at a weight(or somewhere in middle)don't make him a REAL middle.Cotto and Brook were NOT middles.One was a nat welter(Cotto he was huge at 140 and it affected his chin)And the other is a big welter(Brook)Same as Floyd and I don't care he fought at 147 for a long time he WAS NO WELTER.He was at best a Lightweight.Really a case can be made for 130 because he made 8 defences and when he moved up it was NOT because he could not make weight it was a money move.He weighed like 138 and a half night of 1st fight with Castilo at 135 and JC was at like 151-2.