Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder To Anthony Joshua: Give Me The Belts or Fight!

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  • Sledgeweather17
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    #41
    Originally posted by RussTBE
    I dont care about the split. Its just that wilder talked **** then priced himself out saying he wants 50/50 when he knows damn well thats not gonna happen. Classic price out. Now hes talking **** again when AJ has a fight.
    He wasn't pricing himself out. You guys need to go to negotiation tactics 101.

    You never start of at the price that you're willing to pay/earn. You always call for a higher price than the one you're willing to take because the other side will always negotiate downwards.

    If you want 40 percent then it makes sense to ask for 50 percent so that when the other side inevitably negotiates downwards, you'll end up at that 40 percent, which is what you wanted from the beginning.

    Parker did the exact same thing. He asked for a higher price than the one he was willing to take (40 percent) and Hearn negotiated down to 35, which is what Parker was willing to take anyway.

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    • Robi13
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      #42
      Boooooomb Squaaaaaaaad! Joshua and anyone else in the hw division gets soned by papa wilder! Respek the man!!!

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      • hitking
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        #43
        Originally posted by Nomadic
        I don't understand Joshua's fans. Why are you all worried about who pockets the most money between the two? How do you as fans benefit from what Joshua earns when he face Wilder?

        Now, as a real fan of boxing, let this fight happen to see who's the best. 50/50, winner takes all, I don't care. Make the fight or boycott your fake idol.
        I don’t get it homie. It’s like they would rather the fight not happen. At this point, the only fight outside of Wilder for AJ that is acceptable is Fury. And that’s because Fury has a legitimate claim to the true lineal heavyweight title. Aside from that, all these other fights are bull****.

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        • Kiowhatta
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          #44
          "It ain’t like I ain’t done nothing. I’m the longest reigning (heavyweight) champion in the game, so put some respek on the name," Wilder told The Guardian.'

          Not exactly setting the world on fire either Beyonce. If you get through Ortiz convincingly, then I'd consider him ready for Joshua.
          As much as I admire Parker, I can't see him beating AJ, so if Joshua picks up the WBO belt, it would set up a tantalizing showdown for the undisputed HW crown, something not seen since Holyfield in 92, Bowe, then Lewis in 2000.

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          • oscar9992
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            #45
            Then stop pricing yourself out then.

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              #46
              AJ is going to destroy Wilder in the worst way.

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              • mvooom
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                #47
                Originally posted by Nomadic
                I don't understand Joshua's fans. Why are you all worried about who pockets the most money between the two? How do you as fans benefit from what Joshua earns when he face Wilder?

                Now, as a real fan of boxing, let this fight happen to see who's the best. 50/50, winner takes all, I don't care. Make the fight or boycott your fake idol.
                This fight isn't happening because of money, atleast thatz what both sides are claiming.

                I am more of a Wilder fan than Joshua but if Wilder is demanding 50/50 then he is insane. He needs to fight 2 - 3 high profile fights in UK before he can make such demands.

                Whyte, Haye, Bellew, these are all 3 guys I know he can beat. Fight all or some of them and make this fight a mega fight.

                39 fights, 38 KOs. Read that again and see how amazing that looks until you realise there is really nothing to be proud of in there. Still a Wilder fan but he needs to sit up. Old but dangerous Ortiz is a good start, keep it going.

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                • mvooom
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Nomadic
                  My bad, didn't mean to come off that way.

                  But that's with all fans who thinks their fighter deserve the bigger pot. Money fighters earn should never be the issue with fans. Making the best fights or what the fans want to see should be.
                  Money has to be the issue with fans. We love boxing and want to see the fights we want but who gets paid what is the issue certain fights are not happening.

                  If the issue is about belts, we will talk about belts. If it's about shoe sizes, we will talk about shoe sizes...right now, the issue is money and that's it, doesn't matter if we talk about it or not, that is still the issue.

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                  • JRB123
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                    #49
                    Wow.

                    Oh my goodness.

                    See, this is why I can't get with Wilder and I see why one person gets to the point to call him Deontayduckus Wilderquackus...He says stuff but does something completely different.

                    He says that he is fighting for legacy but isn't challenging himself and when there is something in front of him that some fans demand, he asks for way more than what he is worth. Let's place the whole "50-50 or no fight" thing with Joshua over to the side for a moment. How about the Dillian Whyte fight that was proposed?

                    Dillian Whyte isn't happy about Deontay Wilder declining a massive offer to fight the Londoner.


                    This is Wilder's response to that:

                    “I can definitely see where that happens...it happens when Eddie raises that price. That’s when it can happen. If he can come up with $7 [million], whether it comes out of his pocket or not, we’ll listen. … The Dillian Whyte fight, it can happen. But it’s gonna take a little bit more than what they’re talking about. Let them raise it up to $7 to $10 [million] and let’s talk."

                    Deontay Wilder understands why Eddie Hearn keeps insisting that Wilder fight Dillian Whyte. Wilder is convinced Hearn just wants to keep him away from fellow he


                    This dude expects Hearn to pay him more than any other fight that he has had to fight Whyte when Hearn paid AJ a shade over 4 million to fight Whyte at the O2. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

                    Now, let's touch on the 50-50 talk. The problem with that is Wilder is firm on that offer and is not backing down on it right now. This is not similar to Parker because Parker and his team at Duco Events were not saying they deserve at least 40% and will not budge from it...they came down on their offer and said they would go for a 35% split of the purse, and most likely they will get a shade under that.

                    Wilder is not budging, and then saying that AJ is ducking. That's not how it goes.

                    Remember when folks thought that Canelo was ducking Golovkin? When those negotiations went down, what ended up happening? Golovkin got an agreement where he ended up with a lower purse than Canelo. This has happened on multiple occasions in big fights. Only on rare occasions has a fight had a 50-50 split and Joshua-Wilder does not warrant that in any sense.

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                    • Reverb
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                      #50
                      Wilder actually talks out of his arse.

                      And he seems to be talking about himself without realising it when he talks about other fighters.
                      Last edited by Reverb; 12-23-2017, 02:09 AM.

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