Bernard Hopkins in the Alltime List?

**fabzmm** · 06-11-2006, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by Parody

Where do you put him in the alltime middleweight list? Discuss and Vote

Behind RJJ.

**Super_Lightweight** · 06-11-2006, 02:03 AM

As far as career acompllishments go, RJJ is an all-time great at lightheavy and in general, but not at middleweight. Hopkins dominated the middleweight division from 94-2005. Ray Rob is the best welter of all-time, but not the best middleweight in my opinion. That honor goes to either Hagler or Hopkins. Both had very similar careers coincidentally.

**shortright** · 06-11-2006, 02:04 AM

i put him number 1 today he is past his prime and is still a beast 20 defences robbed on the 21, then goes and dominates tarver, in his prime he was really a beast

**Azteca** · 06-11-2006, 02:05 AM

1. monzon
2. greb
3. robinson
4. hagler
5. hopkins

**Easy-E** · 06-11-2006, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by shortright

i put him number 1 today he is past his prime and is still a beast 20 defences robbed on the 21, then goes and dominates tarver, in his prime he was really a beast

Which is relevant to his middleweight rankings how?

**Super_Lightweight** · 06-11-2006, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by PBF34

Which is relevant to his middleweight rankings how?

Anytime a guy goes up in weight and does very well, especially when they do something historic, it makes their overall resume look better. This win takes the sting off of those two Taylor losses a bit. Hopkins is a career middleweight, so anything he does at a higher weight is relevant to his middleweight history in a way.

**2nd II none** · 06-11-2006, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Super_Lightweight

Anytime a guy goes up in weight and does very well, especially when they do something historic, it makes their overall resume look better. This win takes the sting off of those two Taylor losses a bit. Hopkins is a career middleweight, so anything he does at a higher weight is relevant to his middleweight history in a way.

very good point.

**Easy-E** · 06-11-2006, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by Super_Lightweight

Anytime a guy goes up in weight and does very well, especially when they do something historic, it makes their overall resume look better. This win takes the sting off of those two Taylor losses a bit. Hopkins is a career middleweight, so anything he does at a higher weight is relevant to his middleweight history in a way.

But in reality...it is not.
Hopkins win over tarver does not improve his resume as a middleweight.
But damn does it make Taylor look good.

**GunStar** · 06-11-2006, 02:50 AM

#3 for me.

Hagler
Monzon
Hopkins

Bernard Hopkins in the Alltime List?