What is your top 10 boxers with the best 'offensive skills'

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  • Vlad_
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    #11
    Originally posted by bday
    Dude please do all u guys do is try to come up with a way to put east euros on list give it a break America makes the best boxers overall deal with it
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    • mlac
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      #12
      good list, i would have loma lower, canelo lower and usyk higher tho imo

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        Loma's success is a combination of defense and offense along with speed and reflexes. I would actually put Mikey Garcia higher on the list ahead of Loma for offense.

        Active fighters:

        1- Naoya Inoue

        2- Errol Spence

        3- Usyk

        4- Mikey Garcia

        5- Bivol

        6- Kovalev

        7- Berchelt

        8- GGG

        9- Crawford

        10-Loma

        All-Time:

        1- Henry Armstrong

        2- Roberto Duran

        3- Harry Greb

        4- Ray Robinson

        5- Marciano

        6- Pacquiao

        7- JCC

        8- Mike Tyson

        9- Terry Norris

        10-Marvin Hagler

        The all-time list was much harder to narrow down and I could have easily replaced half of them with another name.

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        • Squ□redCircle34
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          #14
          1. Chocolatito( in his 4th weight division)

          2. Crawford

          3. Mikey Garcia

          4.Joshua

          5. Lomachenko

          6. Kovalev

          7. Doritos

          8. Estrada

          9. Usyk

          10. GGG

          Honestly, Canelo has the most potential out of all cuz whenever he creates offense it is simply crisp and precise and in a flash of combos that operates as both offense and defense!

          Too bad his stamina holds him back or I'd have him in the top 5!

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          • Mr Objecitivity
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            #15
            Originally posted by harwri008
            Your list isn't bad but I'm surprised Crawford isn't on there. I also have a problem with Canelo being on there because he tends to fight in spurts.
            Yup, I forgot to add him but I would rate him at number 10 along with Oleksandr Usyk.

            Canelo Alvarez, although can be very lazy and inactive sometimes, can also be one of the most creative and effective offensive boxers in the world when he chooses to let his hands go. He has tremendous body punching and combination punching abilities.

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              #16
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              Lol Loma is topping the list? One of the keys of being an offensive fighter is actually having power.

              GGG
              Kovalev
              AJ

              are the only true stand outs with Manny now almost shot, while the likes of Inoue and Spence need to be tested a bit more at the highest level.

              One can have all the power in the world, but unless they are able to land their punches on the correct areas of their opponent's body accurately with the correct type of punches, their punches aren't going to be very effective.

              Guillermo Rigondeaux is statistically the best defensive boxer in the world when he boxed against Vasyl Lomachenko (or top 3 at the very least). I don't think there is any other boxer out there today who is slicker and more elusive than Rigondeaux (except perhaps Lomachenko himself). Yet, Lomachenko landed punches on Rigondeaux more frequently than any other boxer ever landed on Rigondeaux in Rigondeaux's pro career (and maybe even his amateur career included).

              When Anthony Joshua faced Carlos Takam, who is elusive but nowhere near as elusive or as defensively as good as Rigondeaux. Joshua struggled to land his punches. Joshua struggled more to land his punches on Takam than Lomachenko against Rigondeaux.

              Likewise, Golovkin similarly struggled more to land his punches on Canelo Alvarez than Lomachenko against Rigondeaux. Despite Rigondeaux being even slicker and better defensively than Canelo Alvarez

              The same for Kovalev against Ward. Even Andre Ward isn't as good as Rigondeaux defensively or as slick / elusive. Yet, Kovalev struggled to land against Ward whilst Lomachenko had less difficulties to land on Rigondeaux.

              Power is only a small part of 'offensive skills'. Timing, accuracy, shot selection, offense set up and etc are all integral parts too. So far, Lomachenko's 'offensive skills' have been tested the most because it was tested against the top 3 best defensive boxers in the world today.

              As for power, when Lomachenko sits down on his punches and applies all of his body weight or most of his body weight to them, he punches as powerfully as any knockout artist / power puncher. Just ask Rocky Martinez how much power Lomachenko possesses when he got hit by a full powered Lomachenko punch. The same Rocky Martinez who did better against Mikey Garcia and lasted for more rounds (despite the general consensus being that Mikey Garcia is a more powerful puncher than Lomachenko).

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              • Mr Objecitivity
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                #17
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                Loma's success is a combination of defense and offense along with speed and reflexes. I would actually put Mikey Garcia higher on the list ahead of Loma for offense.

                Active fighters:

                1- Naoya Inoue

                2- Errol Spence

                3- Usyk

                4- Mikey Garcia

                5- Bivol

                6- Kovalev

                7- Berchelt

                8- GGG

                9- Crawford

                10-Loma

                All-Time:

                1- Henry Armstrong

                2- Roberto Duran

                3- Harry Greb

                4- Ray Robinson

                5- Marciano

                6- Pacquiao

                7- JCC

                8- Mike Tyson

                9- Terry Norris

                10-Marvin Hagler

                The all-time list was much harder to narrow down and I could have easily replaced half of them with another name.

                Decent list! I was just referring to boxers of 2017 only.

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                • Mr Objecitivity
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dip_Slide
                  My favorite all time offensive fighter is Aaron Pryor, another very honorable mentions include Roberto Duran, Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Chavez, Mike Tyson, Roy Jones and Manny Pacquiao.

                  From the current crop I think GGG is very good, Terence Crawford, Sergey Kovalev, Lomachenko, Badou Jack, Errol Spence and Mikey Garcia. They have very educated offense and they're also defensively responsible, they know how to crete openings and how to take advantage of them.
                  Just of 2017.

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                  • Mr Objecitivity
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Shontae De'marc
                    Surely that list isn't in any particular order?
                    Yes, it is.

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                    • Mr Objecitivity
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bday
                      Dude please do all u guys do is try to come up with a way to put east euros on list give it a break America makes the best boxers overall deal with it
                      My list has nothing to do with nationality or a boxer's background. Boxing is a global sport so quit the nonsense of whining about the background boxers in the 21st century.

                      Most of the boxers from USA unfortunately aren't very good offensive boxers / knockout artists. Go ahead and name them if you can. That is, if exlcuding the likes of Terence Crawford, Errol Spence Jr and Gervonta Davis.

                      However, boxers from USA would usually rank higher when it comes to 'defensive skills'

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