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  • chrisJS
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    #391
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    I respectfully disagree. P4P, Loma wipes the floor with him.
    I doubt it. Nobody is wiping the floor with either. The complete fighter Crawford has became since some troubles with Gamboa is more than a match for any fighter in recent times just as the fighter Loma has became since being low blowed in his 2nd fight.

    I'd give an edge to Loma based on them having A level skills. Crawford to me perhaps has a better offense, Loma the better defense and footwork. It would be close and tit for tat.

    It's ironic though the "fans" who bragged about speed, athleticism and defense are the one's saying the guy who's #1 in the sport in those areas is trash, would lose to Walters, the smaller Rigo and any fighter he's not yet fought.

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #392
      Originally posted by Lomadeaux
      You have to be careful about dumb fighters. They always have issues.
      I understand exactly what you are saying. Just hoping he stays straight until he achieves something meaningful.

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      • Boxing Goat
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        #393
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        I doubt it. Nobody is wiping the floor with either. The complete fighter Crawford has became since some troubles with Gamboa is more than a match for any fighter in recent times just as the fighter Loma has became since being low blowed in his 2nd fight.

        I'd give an edge to Loma based on them having A level skills. Crawford to me perhaps has a better offense, Loma the better defense and footwork. It would be close and tit for tat.

        It's ironic though the "fans" who bragged about speed, athleticism and defense are the one's saying the guy who's #1 in the sport in those areas is trash, would lose to Walters, the smaller Rigo and any fighter he's not yet fought.
        P4P is GGG, Loma and then Crawford so I don't understand what you mean. To me, if Loma were the size of any other man, nobody currently beats his style, speed or athleticism, not even Floyd. Just my opinion. He's certainly not the green pro that fought Solido. Not by a long shot. Just like Bud is better than when he got hurt twice by Gamboa.

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        • chrisJS
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          #394
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          P4P is GGG, Loma and then Crawford so I don't understand what you mean. To me, if Loma were the size of any other man, nobody currently beats his style, speed or athleticism, not even Floyd. Just my opinion. He's certainly not the green pro that fought Solido. Not by a long shot. Just like Bud is better than when he got hurt twice by Gamboa.
          I agree with everything you said apart from GGG being better than Crawford. I think he has a better resume (to date) but he's not a better fighter IMO. I think Loma-Crawford on a p4p scale would be a 7-5 type fight. I am more impressed by Crawford's punch selection but more impressed by Loma's explosiveness and speed. Bud is such an adaptable fighter and great either as a southpaw or conventional that he'd just be hell for anyone (I think he'd beat Floyd too).

          I see the only way either would lose anytime soon (outside of a bad decision) would be going up too much in weight.

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            #395
            Loma should be fighting Berchelt next if he stays at 130 since he and Loma are the 2 best 130 lbers.

            Davis is not ready for Loma at this point in his career. Everyone knows this. But so many want Davis (really Floyd) to lose so they call for this fight.

            Build your fighter properly Floyd, just like Bob taught you and ODH.

            Treat Davis/Loma llike Bob did Gamboa/JuanMa.

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            • Boxing Goat
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              #396
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              I agree with everything you said apart from GGG being better than Crawford. I think he has a better resume (to date) but he's not a better fighter IMO. I think Loma-Crawford on a p4p scale would be a 7-5 type fight. I am more impressed by Crawford's punch selection but more impressed by Loma's explosiveness and speed. Bud is such an adaptable fighter and great either as a southpaw or conventional that he'd just be hell for anyone (I think he'd beat Floyd too).

              I see the only way either would lose anytime soon (outside of a bad decision) would be going up too much in weight.
              I just want to clarify, I don't think GGG would beat Crawford P4P-wise but he's more accomplished and deserves the P4P #1 spot. And as a matter of fact he has that spot right now and I think rightfully so.

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              • chrisJS
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                #397
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                I just want to clarify, I don't think GGG would beat Crawford P4P-wise but he's more accomplished and deserves the P4P #1 spot. And as a matter of fact he has that spot right now and I think rightfully so.
                I agree. My pound for pound criteria is as much if not more based on the old term "If they were all the same size who's the best" so that's why I'm 1a Loma 1b Crawford 3 GGG but there's no set rules on p4p so I can respect any order of those 3. I can't respect any top 3 without them. it's pretty cut and dry at this point.

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                  #398
                  Originally posted by j.razor
                  If you follow this thread from the beginning it shows loma posting to Floydmayweather then someone posted to loma saying "Challenge someone who didn't retired. Someone younger. Poor call, I reckon." then loma doing a Moon Walk to get out of it saying "Nobody can take a joke." Then loma brings up Floydmayweather It would have been an honor to fight you in your prime but I’m not talking about you. Please stop hiding your fighter."

                  But certain loma fans don't want to admit that loma Moon Walked & that he was talking about Tank the whole time which isn't the case.
                  Thanks for the summary.

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                  • Boxing Goat
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                    #399
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    I agree. My pound for pound criteria is as much if not more based on the old term "If they were all the same size who's the best" so that's why I'm 1a Loma 1b Crawford 3 GGG but there's no set rules on p4p so I can respect any order of those 3. I can't respect any top 3 without them. it's pretty cut and dry at this point.
                    Good post

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