P4P Rankings/Middleweight Rankings Update 12/17/17

[stealthradon]

Who did GGG beat? What's his best win?

Martin Murray? Daniel Jacobs?

[BoxingIsGreat]

Martin Murray? Daniel Jacobs?

Murray is a C+, Jacobs B. A sizable minority thinks Jacobs beat GGG.

[stealthradon]

Murray is a C+, Jacobs B. A sizable minority thinks Jacobs beat GGG.

Murray stopped Blackwell, something that neither Eubank or BJS could.

[R_Walken]

I thought Canelo won the fight against Golokvin 116-112, I had him winning rounds 1,2,3,6,8,10,11,12

You can't properly score fights if you honestly have Canelo 8 rounds

He deserved 4
If you had rose colores glasses for Canelo you give him 5
If you hate GGG and on Canelo nuts you can give him 6
If you can't score and or blind you can him 7
If you smoke crack non stop you can give him 8

For me the rankings are

1 GGg
2 Canelo
3/4 Saunders / Jacobs could make a case for either being #3
5 Charlo
6 Andrade
7 Derenchenko
8 Murata
9-10 Irrelevant

[IllegalDeath]

Its funny that you rank a guy above someone vs whom he lost to or drew with. Before canello ggg had all th4 belts bar one, same story afterwards. It baffles my mind how could someone have canelo over ggg in any list.

Further more, Charlo is yet to do any thing in the 160 division and you have him over Jacobs. Lol, you are ******ly biased.

[Sadiqkingofko]

You can't properly score fights if you honestly have Canelo 8 rounds

He deserved 4
If you had rose colores glasses for Canelo you give him 5
If you hate GGG and on Canelo nuts you can give him 6
If you can't score and or blind you can him 7
If you smoke crack non stop you can give him 8

For me the rankings are

1 GGg
2 Canelo
3/4 Saunders / Jacobs could make a case for either being #3
5 Charlo
6 Andrade
7 Derenchenko
8 Murata
9-10 Irrelevant

What does smoking crack have to with anything???? Round 1 both didn't do **** but Canelo landed the flashier shots, 2 and 3 were clear for Canelo, 4 and 5 were clear for Golovkin, round 6 was close but Canelo edged it, round 7 was a Golovkin round, round 8 was a Canelo round, round 9 was close but Golovkin edged it, round 10-12 Canelo dominated, instead of insults break down round by round, it wasn't a hard fight to score, I was more shocked with Moretti than Byrd tbh

[Madison Boxing]

Murray is a C+, Jacobs B. A sizable minority thinks Jacobs beat GGG.

'a sizable minority' meaning the majority thought ggg still won but youre gonna ignore that and rank him 5th. In the real world outside of the lunatics on this forum the vast majority thought ggg beat jacobs and canelo and the stats back that up. But to fuel your agenda you must say he lost both, sad really although youre not alone.

[BoxingIsGreat]

'a sizable minority' meaning the majority thought ggg still won but youre gonna ignore that and rank him 5th. In the real world outside of the lunatics on this forum the vast majority thought ggg beat jacobs and canelo and the stats back that up. But to fuel your agenda you must say he lost both, sad really although youre not alone.

Actually, that sizable minority doesn't include me. When I was watching the fights live I wasn't invested in any fighter, but even so, I always root for the style I like, with no consequence to me whether the fighter I'm rooting for loses. I'm a boxing fan, not a fanboy.

The Jacobs and Canelo fights confirmed that GGG can't deal with lots of movement and angles. He couldn't cut off the ring properly (which was supposed to be his biggest strength) and was hitting air a lot.

I thought both fights could go either way. So the "lunatics" might have a point.

[You must be a lunatic yourself when it comes to some other (black) fighters. I will never understand your personal hatred of Gervonta Davis. Well, at least you don't call non-whites "colored" anymore!]

Peace!

[R_Walken]

What does smoking crack have to with anything???? Round 1 both didn't do **** but Canelo landed the flashier shots, 2 and 3 were clear for Canelo, 4 and 5 were clear for Golovkin, round 6 was close but Canelo edged it, round 7 was a Golovkin round, round 8 was a Canelo round, round 9 was close but Golovkin edged it, round 10-12 Canelo dominated, instead of insults break down round by round, it wasn't a hard fight to score, I was more shocked with Moretti than Byrd tbh

The smoking crack line wasn't meant to be taken seriously, Just talking sh.it
I just don't see how someone who's isn't extremely biased towards Canelo could honestly score that fight 8 rounds for Canelo

There is no form of reality where he won that fight at best giving him every benefit of doubt he got a draw but even saying in that it would be a joke to call that fight a draw because it wasn't

I haven't watched the fight in awhile and watched it about 3 times , but I had it 1for Gennady but there was limited action so if you want to be generous you can gift Canelo that one. Canelo clearly won rounds 2-3 from round 4-9 were all clear Golovkin rounds. Round 10 & 11 I gave to Canelo but I wouldn't go as far as say dominating. Round 12 Was a close Golovkin round but it wouldn't be blasphemy to give Canelo that round

I had 8-4, The fact that Gennady got a draw against Canelo should tell you he clearly won the fight. Getting a draw and walking away with the belts is almost a victory when you fight Canelo where for some reason judges always seem to give Canelo a round strictly for showing up and just breathing

Lara out boxed and beat Canelo but didn't engage enough in the middle rounds allowing for the judges to rob him and Mayweather damn near pitched a shut out and embarrassed Canelo and yet 1 judge gave him a draw. Trout and Cotto were closer then the scores indicated and Khan was winning every round although behind on the Judges cards before a A-bomb landed on his chin

[TheBigLug]

Murray stopped Blackwell, something that neither Eubank or BJS could.

Murray was underrated in general, although he's past his best now.

With fair judging, he could arguably have wins over Sergio Martinez and Sturm. Also on another night and with different judges might have got a decision over Arthur Abraham.

It's amazing how narrow or bad scoring can vastly change the look of a fighters resume and peoples perception.

GGG is the only fighter to ever beat him convincingly. Groves beat him too but Murray is not a Super-Middleweight and was probably on the slide anyway.