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Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostHave you seen Mares lately with his new trainer??? Dudes no joke! IMO the 3rd best at FW maybe even #2. I have serious doubts if Leo can beat him again??? How is cherry picking fighting the top best in the division???
I think your hate for Leo clouds your judgement. Name someone with a better resume at FW?
Tell you what? Leo fights someone you think will beat him and we can do business...
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Originally posted by rrayvez View Postyeah, mares has looked better recently (last 2 fights) but tell me he didn't look washed leading into the santa Cruz fight after the Gonzalez ko? I don't hate Santa Cruz but Are you really gonna act like Santa cruz didn't fight a bunch of c class dudes prior to the mares fight? And as my original point was, he definitely didn't want that fight with rigo and it should've happened because he was the best opponent available for santa cruz back then.
You think Leos a bum hes still young so he got plenty of fights left...I bet with $$$$ I dont just pop off at the mouth. Everyone has an opinion dont mean sht if you truly dont believe it and back it up. *** do you even have Santa Cruz ranked at FW in the top 10??? How fkn low do you have him?? 20-30?? Maybe not even top 50??
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Originally posted by rrayvez View Postok so what you're asking is if Haymon chose to buy santa cruz out of his contract once the negotiations started on his own? You think he'd do that without consulting with Santa Cruz?? Aside from that, Santa Cruz father straight up said he didn't want that fight for his son & said if his son was gonna lose, he'd prefer it'd be to a Mexican. Santa Cruz didn't want any part of that fight. And check this link where Oscar mentions it and it's also quoted where Santa Cruz said he didn't wanna leave golden boy just 1 month before deciding to leave. Coincidence? www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-on-santa-cruz-buyout-they-want-rigo--87162
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Originally posted by BigStomps View PostNow how do you know Santa Cruz called and beg Al Haymon to buy out his contract?? How do you know Al Haymon didn't take it upon himself to just buy out the contract the minute Oscar announced he was in negotiations to make the fight?????
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he could still fight and beat most of fighters from 122 to 130, but without a belt none of the top fighters are going to get in the ring with him, none of the young prospect either, and probably nobody would like to put him on tv ever again, he is done and 99% of the blame is his.
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Originally posted by rrayvez View Postok so what you're asking is if Haymon chose to buy santa cruz out of his contract once the negotiations started on his own? You think he'd do that without consulting with Santa Cruz?? Aside from that, Santa Cruz father straight up said he didn't want that fight for his son & said if his son was gonna lose, he'd prefer it'd be to a Mexican. Santa Cruz didn't want any part of that fight. And check this link where Oscar mentions it and it's also quoted where Santa Cruz said he didn't wanna leave golden boy just 1 month before deciding to leave. Coincidence? www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-on-santa-cruz-buyout-they-want-rigo--87162
But as far as Haymon buying out Santa Cruz's contract without consulting him well that's something neither you or I really know... You can sit there and speculate and think what you want but in reality your just talking out your ass cause you really don't know the facts!
Maybe Haymon was protecting his interests and he felt Santa Cruz wasn't ready for Rigondoux. All this happend when Al Haymon first ventured on his own and he needed an undefeated Mexican fighter to help build his brand.. Don't you think Santa Cruz was the perfect guy?? He knows Mexicans love boxing so of course he needed a great Mexican fighter to help boost his PBC brand. Think about it... You know boxing but at the same time you love to hate on certain fighters.
Unless you have facts then you shouldn't speculate and you certainly shouldn't call any fighter a coward cause that makes you look like an idiot. We both know boxer's aren't cowards!
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